Why does the USA like Israel so much?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by alaska88, Jan 9, 2009.

  1. John LaO

    John LaO Peon

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    #121
    maybe because Israel is buying weapons from them?....:p
     
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  2. imad

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    #122
    the same can be asked about you, are you an American citizen? supporting Israel crimes and terrorism is not with American's interest.
     
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  3. imad

    imad Peon

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    #123

    they buy these weapons with American money, it's same as saying they get them for free:

    source
     
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  4. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #124
    I am an American citizen, and I don't expect you to understand what is in our interests. I know that I, and most Americans, support our policies toward Israel. We know who and what is a threat to our country and it is not Israel.
     
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  5. imad

    imad Peon

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    #125
    you missed the point as usual, still somebody can ask you the same that you are asking people here for saying their opinion, "are you an American citizen? supporting Israel crimes and terrorism is not with American's interest."

    the point is instead of pointing fingers to persons as you used to do, you can discuss the issue itself, better than using "this is a lie" or this is "antisemitism" or "are you American citizen?" in your own words above you said "most Americans" not sure how true this sentence is, but regardless, it means that not all Americans support these policies, so it's possible to be an American citizen and be against such policies, what is not logical is when you find one who is against these policies and ask him "are you an American citizen?" to imply that "ALL" American citizens support these policies.

    Most American citizens supported the war in Iraq at some point of time, and most American citizens became against this same war in Iraq at some other point of time, but when most were supporting, were these who did not support "non-American citizens"? and later when most were against, does it mean those who are still with the war in Iraq, are "non-American citizens?"
     
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  6. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #126
    You are missing the point. She suggested the terrorist have good reason to hate the USA and that the USA is the greatest threat to world peace. In that statement she used the term "us". Since it did not sound like something I would hear from my fellow Americans I simply asked her a question directly. I am not sure why you are so confused by that other than you always seem to try to find a way to argue about everything. Grow up.


    Yes, we already know from your posts that you side with terrorists over USA, but thanks for just coming out and saying it.

    Are you a US citizen or are you just using the term "us" loosely?
     
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  7. imad

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    #127
    you like to argue so much, there are so many Americans who have similar opinions but you make it like this is something new for you, when you use questions like "are you American citizen?" when it is clear she is when she said "us", you are here trying to imply something, like she is pretending to be an American when she is not, and this is not new in your posts,

    you used same method to try to paint all Jews as Zionists, and all who criticize Israel as terrorists supporters, grow up.
     
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  8. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #128
    It is a question because it was not clear to me. Maybe you make assumptions, I simply chose to ask a question. Perhaps it was careless language, perhaps she is an American citizen, perhaps she like many on this forum pretend to be one thing when they are, in fact, something else.

    Unlike you, I did not make an accusation or assumption, I simply asked her directly. I am not sure why that is such a confusing concept for you. I don't think I can help you anymore.

    She is free to hold those beliefs, that is the beauty of freedom, another concept I don't think you fully understand.
     
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  9. new

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    #129
    hey, but America it self supports terrorists ? did you forget isreal :eek:
     
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  10. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #130
    America considers Israel an ally and Hamas a terrorist group. I agree with my country's position on that. Sorry to burst your bubble.
     
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  11. imad

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    #131
    I like that you did not say "perhaps she is an American citizen, perhaps she like many on this forum pretend to be American citizens when they are, in fact not"

    and instead used:

    there are many who pretend to be something when they are something else, everywhere, not only on this forum where there are many who pretend to be honest when they are not, the issue was about "pretending to be an American citizen"

    and do you really think if she was pretending to be an American citizen, she would answer your question with yes like in "oh browntwn, you caught me!, yes I was pretending to be an American citizen"

    did you really think she would answer you with "yes" if she was really pretending, lol

    your question was not asked to get an answer it was asked to imply that she is lying which again a method you are using a lot here, instead you can discuss the topic and refute lies if there was any, and respect other people opinions even if they are in disagreement of yours, better than this bully attitude you use.
     
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  12. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #132
    Imad, I have no idea what anyone's citizenship is until I am told. I thought she probably just used the "us" term loosely, and was not intending to imply she was an American. But I do not know, that is why I asked. I am not sure why you are making such a big deal about it. Either she is or she isn't. I am not putting forth all this silliness about pretending to be an American, that is you, you are going on and on about it.

    I just asked a question because her use of the word "us" seemed out of place with the rest of her post. Why not let her speak for herself, she seems like a big girl who can easily speak her mind.
     
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  13. imad

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    #133
    of course s/he can speak for him/herself, i m not stopping her and you should not try to stop her or others by attacking their credibility without a real reason except they have different opinions than yours, or because they criticize the criminal illegal state of Israel and US support for it, check your posts and see that pattern in them, just yesterday you put the word "Jew" in the mouth of a poster who criticized Israel to imply that he is antisemitic, you even openly accused people who criticize Zionism, that they mean Jews when they say Zionists, despite there are so many Jews against Zionism,

    and here too in this thread you used the same, better again to discuss what they say and prove they are wrong if you can.
     
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  14. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #134
    I have not tried to stop anyone from speaking, nor would I care to. I cherish everyone's right to speak their mind.

    Asking someone what country they are a citizen of is not attacking someone's credibility. Although, I will note, attacking someone's credibility is not something wrong in any event. There are many here who make absurd claims with no support and I have no problems challenging their credibility. An opinion, such as expressed in the post that started this, is not something that is a fact to be challenged. So it is not even an issue here.

    Reading your posts is like watching a dog chasing its tail. It is amusing for a minute. I grow very tired of you and this exchange. Do you have a point?
     
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  15. imad

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    #135
    talking about reading my posts, I hope you read the part where it says:

     
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  16. browntwn

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    #136
    "Asking someone what country they are a citizen of is not attacking someone's credibility."

    Is my opinion on Jordanian politics as relevant to you as a fellow Jordanian's? It is not a question of credibility.

    You just like to argue for no purpose and to no end.
     
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  17. aletheides

    aletheides Banned

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    #137
    I'm a US citizen.

    I don't support terrorism when it comes from either sides, Hamas nor Israel.

    Do us all a favor and search "Greatest Threat to World Peace"

    1. Israel
    2. USA
    3. USA/Israel
    4. USA
    5. A Time poll that shows USA is the greatest threat to world peace, with 86.9% of the votes.
    6. Israel

    ...Shall I continue?

    Have fun with that.
     
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  18. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #138
    Thanks for the answer.

    Nor do I.

    I condemn acts of Israel when I feel they are not moral including individual acts of terrorism, and I have done so on this forum several times. We all should speak out against acts we disagree with. I certainly don't have any problem with you expressing your opinion - but that does not mean I will remain silent when I disagree.
     
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  19. unlockediphonesite.com

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    #139
    OH wow a Time's poll. Times is so independent and non bias. I believe this all the way.:eek::eek::eek:
     
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  20. helloman

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    #140
    they are a mainstream source, i take it you would rather he used fox news?
     
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