Why do women have to wear hijab

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by thegr4, Jun 22, 2010.

  1. arabSquad

    arabSquad Well-Known Member

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    #141
    ROFL, Really ? That's how you're gonna respond ?
    And no thanks, I've never lay a hand on a woman in my entire life, and never will do :)

    Nope, It's more like "most middle-eastern countries are ruled by dictators who dont like being disagreed with whether it's related to islam or not"
     
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  2. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #142
    It's pretty silly that some people try to blame this behavior on the "government" part of "Islamic government", when no secular governments engage in this barbaric behavior.

    The other test of that argument also fails, as Muslims not in government evince the same behavior.

    These two bodies of evidence prove far beyond a reasonable doubt that this barbarity is a direct result not of "government", but of "Islam."

    In addition, their argument completely fails when you bring in Quranic evidence. But... it appears that weak people are unable to handle the truth.
     
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  3. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #143
    You agree most middle eastern countries and their dictators try to cloak their atrocities under the banner of Islam?

    Could that be the reason the rest of the word understandably associates Islam with all the atrocities and other shit the middle east dictators and their counties do?
     
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  4. 1234nasir

    1234nasir Well-Known Member

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    #144
    Hijab is actually for the safety and honor of women, not any punish or burden to cover their faces to prevent from hungry eyes.
     
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  5. Helvetii

    Helvetii Notable Member

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    #145
    You mean to say Arabs and Muslims are perverts with hungry eyes?

    Your words not mine.
     
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  6. alexispetrov

    alexispetrov Peon

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    #146
    Having to cover your face from Muslims to not get raped is pretty messed up, I agree.

    Here, maybe if it might happen in SOME places if you were naked - but even then, never because of showing your hair or face. Muslim men sound like animals with no control.
     
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  7. babak44

    babak44 Active Member

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    #147
    in Iran hijab is mandatory and women force to cover theirselves. rarely I saw Iranian women have hijab out of Iran, most of the women uncover in plane when go to abroad.
     
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  8. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #148
    Muslim men should learn self control or they should be force to wear male chastity belts.

    It is morally wrong to punish victims -- punish the perpetrators.
     
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  9. babak44

    babak44 Active Member

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    #149
    honor! what you mean?
    Safety! you mean in Muslim world there is weak culture and law to bring safety for women? I'm not sure hijab diminish greed of men any more.

    All the people have to learn self control I guess.
     
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  10. masterrio

    masterrio Well-Known Member

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    #150
    so Islamic men are desperados and perverts ? They don't know how to control their feelings and desires ?
    be practical dude, human is a human, if its really protection, then women must be given equal right as an option to choose whether they would like to wear or not, why don't have they got any such provision ? Can't women look after their own security ? Are they kids who can't defend themselves ?
    Why aren't the men covered, may be it could protect them from "female animals/ perverts" who might get into mood ?

    don't be hysterical, and be practical.

    Equal rights to each human should be the cause for any religion.
     
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  11. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #151
    And what good do hijab's do when the Muslim men rape boys too?

    'They Destroyed Me': French Teen's Rape Case Exposes Dubai's Dark Side
    ...
    16-year-old French-Swiss Alexandre Robert and his mother Veronique were the perfect example of Dubai's cosmopolitan makeup. Alex was living in Dubai when he says he was gang raped at knifepoint, beginning an ordeal that has shed light on how Dubai's justice system treats victims of violent sex crimes.
    ...
    Saturday July 14th of this year was just another summer day in paradise. Then 15-year-old Alex spent the day at the beach with his friend. When it was time to go home, a local teenager they barely knew offered to give them a lift when they couldn't find a cab. He called two older friends who had a car.

    Alex and his friend accepted the ride and got in the car. Alex says the man behind the wheel drove past the turnoff to his house, beyond Dubai's landmark Mall of the Emirates, and into a desolate stretch of desert.

    "So we keep driving and I see him taking an exit to go in the desert and I told him 'Where are you going?' And this is where I started to think and realize that something was wrong, you know, and they told me to shut up," Alex recalled.

    First Alex says the driver secured the child locks on the doors, trapping the boys inside. Then they stopped along a desert road on the outskirts of the city.

    "They asked my friend to get out of the car, he said no, so they pulled him out with violence and they started hitting, hitting him and they hit me. And after that -- I'm sorry…" Alex said, unable to continue.

    "Alex started to scream," his friend told ABC News, adding that Alex tried to grab his hand. The friend spoke about the attack on the condition that his name be kept secret because he still lives in Dubai and fears retaliation.

    "I was very afraid," said the friend. "I thought they wanted to kill me, me and Alex. So it was like the last minute of my life I was living."

    Desperate for help, Alex says he tried to call 999 -- Dubai's version of 911 -- on his cell phone.

    The local teen who brought them to the car overheard the police respond to the call, Alex says, and grabbed for the phone.

    "I had the phone in my hands, I was screaming and shouting for help," said Alex. "He took my phone and he was hitting me. I started screaming and crying."

    'I'm Gonna Kill You'

    "He was saying, 'I'm gonna kill you, your mother, father. I know where you live. Don't do that any more,'" recalled his friend.

    "He said to me right in the eyes, right in the eyes that if I, if I speak about this one day, he knows where I live, he'll go to my house, he'll burn my house, he'll kill my parents, he'll f*** them and he'll burn them," Alex said. "And it was hard."

    "They will not touch us. Don't worry about that, it's done," said Veronique. "They will pay for that, they will pay for that."

    As dusk settled in the desert, the friend says he was forced to walk behind a sand dune, where he couldn't see or hear anything. That's when Alex says the 36-year-old driver threatened his life.

    "He took out a pool stick and a hunting knife. He told me that he wanted to f*** me and I told him no way, I told him this, you can forget about it. I won't let you touch me, I won't let you. And after this, I had no choice."

    When he finished, the teenager who had first offered them the ride came back to the car, Alex says. "I told them, 'Listen, if you're going to kill us, just let me use my phone, just give me back my phone and let me, let me call my family, I won't tell them where I am, I'll talk in English, I won't tell them what's happening, but just…if you're going to kill me, just let me call them, tell them that I love them or something, just let me do this," said Alex." And they keep telling us to shut up."

    In the end their salvation may have turned on something as simple as sand. Alex says the attackers' car got stuck and they had to call a relative, who drove to the scene.

    "I got my head up and I saw this plate number…I still remember it today," said Alex. "And I think this, this plate saved my life."

    'Homosexuality Is An Illegal Act'

    Instead of killing them, Alex says their attackers brought them to one of Dubai's luxurious hotels, where they were thrown out of the car.

    "They pushed us like, like we were nothing, you know, like if we were bags," he said.

    Alex says he felt dizzy and passed out. He had survived a violent rape that could happen anywhere in the world, but the legal nightmare ahead would turn out to be a second tragedy, he says.

    After the attackers left them on the curb Alex and his friend went to the first safe place they could think of. They took a taxi to a local shopping mall, hid in the bathroom, and called for help.

    They immediately reported the crime, going in person to the local police station. But Alex says the police doctor who examined him that night seemed intent on proving there was no rape, just a consensual sexual act between three men and a 15 year-old gay boy.

    "He told me, admit it, you are a homosexual and everything," said Alex. "I got really angry, I told him, 'Listen, I just got raped by three guys.'"

    ...​

    It's starting to seem to me like our Muslim brothers are only opposed to consensual sex.
     
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  12. alexispetrov

    alexispetrov Peon

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    #152
    Sick and sad, but I think you're onto something, Will.
     
    alexispetrov, Jul 1, 2010 IP