Spousal abuse in Islam is something which is dealt with in a different way altogether. I have lived in Britain before. Oh sure, those are "reliable" sources If you can bring something more authentic than a site called ihateislamthatiswhyimadethisfreeblogsitewhichhasnocredibilityatall.blogspot.com, then you may speak. Wanna bet that my 7-month old nephew can create a blog called "thewestisfullofrape.blogspot.com" and post all kinds of news on it? Since you reject God, I am very sure God does not need your "thanks". But I feel sorry for you. Considering that Atheists do not have moral ethics or anything remotely resembling a code for social behaviour, it is no wonder why you are spitting out abuses like a chimney spouting out smoke.
Are we being lazy and dishonest? Source, another source. Find more sources on your own. Maybe the only "valid" sources for you are islamic websites?
I have lived in an Islamic area before - I don't now. You said that because I don't live in an Islamic country I can't comment - not that I could comment if I'd previously lived in such a place. Make up your mind. Either I can because I have, or I can't because I don't - in which case these rules must also apply to you. I will bet that your 7 month old nephew could not create that site, yes. I'm pretty sure the kid can't spell "dog" let alone use a computer He's 7 months old, lol. The news stories can be found on other more reliable sites; I guess you didn't look? And also you talk about more "authentic" sites, but I did include some - here is another. Also this. Unless of course what you are really looking for is some Muslim rag saying "Praise Allah, the child was gang raped but has now married one of these men so is saved! Allah Ahkbar! Let us rape more children!"
He's smarter than you give him credit for, that's for sure! So what does this prove, really? That Islam endorses these things? The fact that these things made the news shows that the claim that "Rapes go largely unreported in Muslim countries" certainly is far-fetched, isn't it? Rape and abuse happens in almost every country, nobody is denying that. However, to pin all this on Islam for being responsible just because of the actions of a few is very shallow indeed. As pointed out before, the number of rape statistics worldwide proves that Western nations are among the highest in the world. None of the Top 10 nations listed are Muslim-majority nations, and to say that this is because "Rapes go largely unreported in Muslim countries" is an unproven claim that does not address the real issue of why rape happens in the so-called "more civilised than Muslim countries" West. Of course this doesn't mean that rape is non-existent in Muslim nations, but this certainly shows something is morally wrong with those countries with high numbers of rape crimes.
Some people seem to forget the fact that the Shia makes up around 10% out of the total 1.5 billion Muslims around the world. The other 90% (Sunni Islam) consider the words of any Shia "ayatollah" as worthless.
A piece of Art... you should publish something like that. Sick? why sick and offended... do you find funny the fact that women have to wear hijab? treated as a property that no one else can see? This is not an accusation, it's a FACT.
Keep on saying on and on and on, Look this forum is not for a religious talk.So mods please delete this thread .Does some one ever said(specially Muslims) a word to Christianity & Judaism. No . Why you people keep on saying against about Islam .Once i read Quran and verses Attract me the Most are . GOD says "If you bring whole world in front of them & make them to believe in ONE GOD & his creation & his things they not going to believe unless i (GOD) Make them to believe" & again "at the day of judgement we will show them who was on right path and who were wrong . So People those who believe any religion Please For GOD sake not take this any further and finish it Here . & Those who are not believing any religion at least not to say bad words for other . Please its a humble request .Show the decency Please .
This is the P&R section. We talk about religion here. islam happens to be a very hot topic around here, because of all the BS that's going on surrounding it. If you don't like it, you don't have to come here
Wonderful to hear! Now if only you could voice such opinions more vocally instead of directing your outrage at westerners who repeat the nonsense clearly being propagated by Muslims. If people like you were on the forums blasting away at the kind of idiocy being put forward by many Muslims, there would be no need for us to repeat it and question whether or not such idiocy falls into standard Muslim values. Three different major cities in Morocco. Looking at your travels within the Muslim community, I suspect you are a man of at least some means. Lets be fair, ignorance and extreme poverty describe most Muslim nations. One might even use the word, commonplace. Perhaps they can soon be categorized as "non-muslim" like the Ahmadis, qualifying them for full scale abuse? It seems Bama boy is already there with his statement below. Arab Squad? No, but you do arrest women who report rapes, even in your beloved UAE. If there were even one account of such an activity, it would put into question any legitimacy of your rape statistics in Muslim lands. People like Awinsjclarke like to stand on the idea there are no statistics rapes are not treated as crimes. Who the hell is going to report a rape if they fear being arrested for reporting it? And no, it isn't funny. It was never funny. Did I call that or what. By the way Awinsjclarke, its starting to look like you and Menj are involved in some pretty serious sh*t, beyond the promotion of pornography. I tease you about the pornography because it is item #84,231 that show what a hypocrite you are. When I see evidence of identity theft and religious based extortion, my attitude towards you changes from amusement at ignorance to anger at criminality. I hope the people who know how get the appropriate authorities in Malaysia to look into this.
Apparently you know nothing. A Huge majority of women wear hijab because they want to, And MANY muslim women walk around the streets with no hijab at all and they're TOTALLY SAFE .. So it's up to them really. But From an Islamic point of view They should, As Allah asks them to do so. Ignorance and EXTREME Poverty describe most Muslim nations ? I'm sorry but that's just you being hateful. I COMPLETELY disagree .. Most of the Muslim nation is well educated with plenty of notable scientists .. and Well of as well. Did you even read it ? They broke the laws of the country. Also I Highly doubt the source you mentioned, At first it mentioned she was a 23 year old British Muslim woman, and then she drinks and has sex outside marriage to celebrate ?
Really? Why don't you download this map of Arab lands and mark it up the areas without widespread poverty and poor education. Pointing out the obvious is not hateful. While you are at it, why don't you list off the notable scientists and compare those numbers to non-muslim nations of the same landmass and population. Hell, compare the number of notable scientists from all of the above lands with the number from Israel. I think counting Nobel prize winners is a fair comparison, how bout you? First, this is one example, there are many. Second, thank you for confirming that the UAE, a supposed shining star of the Muslim community, has barbaric laws which prohibit couples from engaging in consensual sex in the privacy of their own hotel room. The fact they applied that law to foreigners should be put on their tourism advertisements. I saw you also frequent Saudi Arabia, so barbarism is not unfamiliar to you. I especially liked the story about the couple arrested for kissing in a Saudi mall. The fact remains. If you face threat of questioning and arrest under some other barbaric law for reporting a rape, people are not going to report rapes. I'd venture a guess your lands are filled with rapists. Perhaps these other confirmations of the story will help you in your doubt. http://www.khaleejtimes.com/Display...ary/theuae_January235.xml§ion=theuae&col= http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag...-SHE-and-fiance-are-held-for-illegal-sex.html http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article6981008.ece http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jan/08/british-woman-arrested-dubai
So it's OK to do drugs in your own hotel room, according to your principle ? Correct me If i'm wrong but isn't it forbidden in Judaism for couples to engage in sex before marriage ?
Did you just ignore the entire remainder of my post to focus on some minutia? No longer standing on the wealthy and educated status of most Muslim lands? No longer trying to imply that the story is fake? Fine. I'll take your lack of comment as your acceptance of the factual nature of my claims, so lets focus on drinking in hotel rooms and Judiasim's rules for premarital sex. First off, who cares what Judaism says about premarital sex. There is no country on the planet run by the rules of Judaism, including Israel. It is perfectly find for me to poozle my girlfriend in a hotel in Israel. In fact, I can poozle her up the ass. Who cares what some other religious sect says about premarital sex? Are you really trying to imply that imprisoning a person who is reporting a rape is anything short of barbaric? Secondly, regarding the use of illegal drugs in the privacy of your hotel room, it remains illegal. Speaking of drugs in Muslim nations, if Islamic nations were to punish people for the use of Khat and Hash, there would be very few free people in these countries. The question I would ask is, how does a person reporting a rape come to be questioned and then confess to consumption of alcohol? Were they coerced to testify against themselves? Perhaps tortured? What does the consumption of alcohol have to do with a rape report? It amazes me that you can somehow find such allegations reasonable in the reporting of what most would consider the most serious offense against a person short of murder. Lastly, do you really believe that risk of being questioned and arrested as in the example above, doesn't inhibit rape reports? You seem like a smarter guy than that.
I like your style! Are you actually a woman if I might ask? It'd be nice to have another one around here who is sane. It often seems Rebecca and I are the only ones ^-^; You should also consider joining the I Love Israel group - link is in Obamanation's signature. (Don't worry, unlike certain other groups we wont try to blow you up or rape your pets.)
@Obamanation Its strange that you call yourself a part of civilized nation. A nation having greatest rate of rape, child murder in the form of abortion. They even don't bother to throw born babies in dust bin. Who Cares! you only live once, ENJOY!!!
Actually, South Africa has the greatest rate of rape.... In fact, more than three times greater than America.
And as was just demonstrated to ArabSquad, Muslim women live in fear of reporting rape. Really helps keep your rape stats down when reporting the crime can get you arrested. OTOH, raping a camel owns, because you can be guaranteed it will never talk.
In your country, one of the biggest and most important ones, 30% of the people can't read and write. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Egypt#Literacy . Other sources show 50%. Sorry for being hateful. And you can continue to disagree with the facts, don't let me disturb you. LOL. Here is some good education from TV in your country http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIlQq4NiSzE Oh. Here is some more great education, from a TV channel in your country: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vtt8V25lGmc The way to deal with your problems is not to deny them and accuse everybody stating the facts as "hateful", that's pretty much the Muslim way. Cope with them. Acknowledge them. Take responsibility for your society and future and stop crying. Take a lesson from your neighbours in Israel how this can be done.