Why do we get so Fanatic over politics and religion??

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by moffey, Nov 5, 2011.

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    We take our positions,and refuse to accept any other points of view,no matter what it may be,right,wrong or down the middle.
    Thus, one who disagrees with either of these choices is saying that, even in a decision that is so important that one's entire life is involved, that person is unable to make a thoughtful and reasoned choice. Now, that is almost always true--almost always a political or religious choice is made based on emotion, not reasoned-out facts. But to even imply this to another is to insult that person by implying that person doesn't know how to choose for self.
    And a lot of time it includes the parents being insulted as well.
     
    moffey, Nov 5, 2011 IP
  2. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    Politics is self interest. You don't get much more personal than that.
     
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    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    Religion itself is based on faith/belief/emotions. Someone who believes something else means they don't believe what you believe. People take offense to that because simply believing something else when it comes to religion, it indirectly means they think your beliefs are wrong. And things based on beliefs/emotions are always the most heated arguments... partially because of their own insecurity. "If someone believes something else, maybe I *am* wrong..." So they start throwing out all the facts about why they are right (and in the end, it's partially just to reassure themselves).

    Typically people who aren't overly religious themselves are the ones that can the most rational discussions about religion.
     
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    JamesColin Prominent Member

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    In france there is a saying, I don't know if in other countries it's the same, but the two topics that should not be discussed in family reunions are... POLITICS AND RELIGION..
    So no wonders that this is the most heated section of DP.. And you know, so many forum simply forbid any mention of politics or religion..

    So it is really a problem, and honestly I think the worst is religion, because politics can be debated, but religion, no.
    I don't believe in any of those, so I'm very concious of the absurdity of believing in one when there exist so many.. but most people believing in one religion are not seeing the same thing as me :)

    After the rules of this sub forum ask that people stay polite, but this is so very hard, participing in this forum is really temptation to get an infraction and a ban, I know it because I have been victim of that, and since then, I really refrain myself to even look at the topic, well except today and I've been lucky to find this thread, now I'll be looking at others, but will try to keep it short :)
     
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    sunfyre7896 Peon

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    The better question to ask is why do people twist what you believe and what you say like some political campaign aimed at discrediting what it is that you believe? For instance, many of the religions of the world preach a type of peace and a God, yet one person will say their God is better and more right and that you are either a heathen or uneducated and ignorant. Goes on ALL the time.
     
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    saurabhisbc Member

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    The think you talk about, is of conservatives and yes modern people, no matter how much they claim do carry some sort of conservatism. Because very fact of being conservative is don't allow oneself hear its inner voice, sit over a rule or agenda. And do not accept or give even a chance to any other point of view. Both politics & religion belong to such people because these systems of our society demand certain kind of ideology and ideologies have always given birth to clashes even in ancient times.
     
    saurabhisbc, Nov 8, 2011 IP
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    How dare you speak thusly. Your Brahman masters will make sure you spend an eternity with Yama.
     
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    Why do people get so fanatical over driving and traffic?
     
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    babak44 Active Member

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    good points Moffey.

    yeah guess can call it pride and prejudice and beside bigotry. maybe because human want to be perfect and being superior!

    frankly I didn't choose my nationality and religion.

    yeah right typically as you said, not all of them I guess.
     
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    When it comes to to religion & politics people have very strong beliefs, and unfortunately their beliefs usually differ with another person's, and cause arguments. That's why these subjects are often banned in forums, I'm surprised they are allowed here :)
     
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    their lives are on the line. You can't get more personal than that.
     
    thesickearth, Nov 15, 2011 IP
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    I'm sure that fanatism in religion and politics is mostly affected by the fact that these matters are so ambiguing in their entity that one has many ways to get fanatic. On the other hand, these are also the fields, where the fanatism is majorly cultivated by those, earning money on developing either political or religious conflicts.
     
    tom.jeraldino, Nov 24, 2011 IP
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    that one yes
     
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    Because this teaching had been planted deeply into our brain...
    and we never opposed into Politic and Religion's teaching that is delivered to you
     
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    Well, I would say that opposing to Political and Religious Teaching is frequently treated as being inadequate in the society, where the majority tends to believe in what it's being told by the official powers (both political and religious).

    At the same time, even though the opposition is rarely supported, I wouldn't dare say that the opposing views have got no chances to find many followers. The modern times with the increased freedom of speech and the higher level democracy have made it possible to believe in what you're believing and being not afraid to say it.

    Unfortunately, even now the majority of people are still under influence of what is considered right and what is considered Not right.
     
    tom.jeraldino, Nov 29, 2011 IP