To all the directories owners present here at DP, I have a questions regarding the criteria upon which you all approve the sites in your directories. Well I am a directory submitter working with a regular client base and work for around 100+ sites each month. Also note that I get paid for every approved submissions. what I do is I make a list of directory announced at dp every 5 days and submit all the 100+ sites to each of them and believe me all of the sites are regular and non-controversial ones. Yet I get my first 10-20 sites approved and rest rejected without any reason in most of the directories. Now my question arises that on what basis my submitted sites get rejected? I generally submit sites using same name and email id.. Is that a reason? I mean people announce their directories here and request other to submit sites and when people try to submit in bulk, they reject them? I am not getting the real concept of rejections. I feel that most directory owners have a misconception that if a person is submitting a huge no. of site in one go, he must be spamming so reject the submissions! Is this the real case pals? if there is such a case then its my request that please have a look on the sites before rejecting them and if you have to reject the sites, please do not ask us to submit. Also, I would like to request serious directory owners to please post your directories here in this thread if you want me to submit my sites to yours so that I can contact you after submissions. Waiting for the replies..
Just because a directory owner solicits submissions doesn't mean that they're obligated to approve every submission received. From the crap I've seen submitted around here, very few if any of the sites submitted would be approved by me. Some directory owners do have an idea of what it takes to build a decent resource rather than just providing webmasters and link monkeys with a link just for the hell of it.
then what is the point of rejecting decent sites? just because they were submitted in bulk? I fully agree with your post and no offense at all.
I own several directories. My approval system is as follows. First off we have rules, the main ones are: No submissions to Top categories unless featured. Do not fill Title or Descriptions with keywords. Do not put URL un title or description. No internal pages unless featured/paid Sites must be in English. When I get to admin and start approving submission the first thing I do is organise by category and then delete all those in top categories. I then delete those in wrong categories, then those filled with keywords and massive titles, then those who have submitted internal pages. Then and only then do I start checking submitted sites for bad content etc. The amount of sites I delet is unbelievable and it is simply because the submitter got it all wrong. I do not check for emails or same name by submitters. If you follow rules of the directories you submit to you should be OK. My directories are as follows Paid http://www.yazzoo.org http://www.airedaledirectory.com http://mitredirectory.com FREE (at the moment) http://www.whiterosedirectory.com If you want to submit to them you can, just follow the rules. hope this helps.
So many submission companies are not submitting decent sites and don't seem to understand categorization. My guess is that many directory owners are automatically bouncing your submissions if it is obvious they are coming from a submission company. The easiest way to do that is by electronically comparing the email to the domain being submitted. If they don't match it's an automatic refusal.
I only run paid directories now because you simply get too much shit otherwise. Also I think 'bulk submission' and 'decent sites' is a bit of an oxymoron.
submitted to your directory.. also, most of those rules were known but some are new to me..thanks This may be correct..nothing I can really do with this..impossible to get domain email id for each and every sites! well paid directories are out of everyone's reach. For 2nd part, I dont think that the things should be generalized in such a manner.
Perhaps you could get your clients to set up email accounts for you on their domain. It would provide you with an email to use for submissions and it would also provide them with more proof that you are actually doing what they are paying you to do. For the most part, they would only have to give you the account name. The only time you might need to actually log into the account would be if you are submitting to any directories that require registration or email verification.
While the vast majority of the SEO and submission companies are not much more than snake oil salesmen, I have dealt with a few who were fine representatives for the companies who hired them and I gladly accepted their client's listings. And, anyone who knows me, knows that I am very picky about what I accept in my directories.
Its impractical when we talk about 100 different sites. submitting with 100 different email ids, logging in each of them then verifying submissions can be much hectic task for all of us. As far as proof is concerned, I provide my clients with the direct URL of the directory where the link has been placed in the reports so I guess its enough for them for believe me. I am seriously seeking for some other idea
The sad truth is you are working in an industry full of spammers and thieves. Directory owners are simply trying to find effective ways to deal with those folks. I'm not a fan of email matching as many of the sites listed on Crafty Tips are Etsians and other shop owners who do not have emails for the domains where their sites appear. But, I also have far few submissions to slog through on a daily basis than general directory owners do. You might want to look into calculating the number of auto-refusals against the number of directories requiring verification. Once you have those numbers, it would seem you will have to decide which offers the best ROI for you - accepting that domain matching directories will refuse your listings or foregoing submissions to directories which require verification. I just don't think you are going to find another option.
It's likely the directory of your choosing has little editorial experience. Many will reject submissions because they feel it was submitted to an incorrect category or for some other reason; poor or duplicated descriptions/titles, etc. Many feel that because they are offering a free listing, the submitter should follow their guidelines and they shouldn't have to edit a submission (not sure why they would call themselves an editor if all they do is approve/reject). Keep in mind that "decent" is subjective and what may be acceptable to some may not be acceptable to others. Ever try breaking up your submissions into stages? Might be that some directory owners "assume" that a multitude of submissions from the same IP/email address are likely low quality or spam.
You have got it all right! since we are talking about domain matching, it is certainly new to me but I do not get understand 1 point that why do they generally approve first 5-10 submissions and reject rest of them? If they are doing domain matching, it should be applied for each and every site no? Thanks for your tip btw. I was just going to do that only. I'll now use different email address and will break submissions in parts. Hope this helps us out.