Why do muslim follow the sunna more than the Koran?

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  1. leet

    leet Notable Member

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    #41
    We all know they do.
     
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  2. Realm

    Realm Well-Known Member

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    #42
    isn't he considered as part of god as some of you guys believe in the Trinity?
     
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    #43
    because he fear that the Hadith mix to quran
     
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  4. kafer

    kafer Peon

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    #44
    How did you/they come up to this conclusion?

    I thought it was Allah who took charge of protecting his last book from corruption as per 15:9 “We have.. sent down the Message; and We will assuredly guard it.” .

    Even the closest companion Umar said: " The Quran is enough for us, do not write anything from the Prophet."


    While by the current standard, the Hadith as you know is classified as false, weak, true etc… so it means that there is a human subjective intervention to classify stories as such.
     
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  5. Realm

    Realm Well-Known Member

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    #45
    Hadiths are sayings of the Prophet (pbuh) that were recorded by the people that lived during his time and that were with him...It is a good thing to follow in the footsteps of the Messenger of God don't you think? Sunnah is basically following the Prophet's doings and such...who doesn't want to be in the right path of good deeds?
     
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  6. debunked

    debunked Prominent Member

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    #46
    Jesus says that the Father and Him are one.

    I worship the Father (God) either way, there is only one God.
     
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  7. alaska88

    alaska88 Peon

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    #47

    oh yes they do, just go to any church, they only have one word for you, Jesus, jesus for this jedus for that, they only talk about jesus, God is barely mentionned, as if Jesus was God himself.
     
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  8. alaska88

    alaska88 Peon

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    #48
    Well then he was right to ban it because that's exactly what is happening now, The muslims will follow the hadiths more than the Koran.
     
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  9. alaska88

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    #49
     
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  10. trocobob

    trocobob Banned

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    #50
    If you read the Boigraphy of Bukhari . you will know the response .

    Sahih al Boukhari is on of the Completes books after the Quran .:)
     
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  11. dilipsam

    dilipsam Well-Known Member

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    #51
    Forget the Hadith, The Quran itself is full of errors. The Old Testament characters are confused with the New Testament characters. The god of Abraham forgot to tell either Moses or Jesus that there were Jinn and he promptly in his last update told their prophet that Jinns existed.

    Although the identity of who was laid on the sacrificial alter by Abraham is not mentioned in the Quran, they identify it with Ishmael because he is their ancestor.

    Now when the prophets of the Old Testament sent by God continuously referred to the Isaac being laid on the alter, why didn't God correct them?

    He should have at least told Jesus that it wasn't Isaac but Ishmael.

    Finally, God must be a real lazy bum, it took him 600 years to tell the world that he didn't have a son. And when the apostles of Jesus were spreading Christianity, why weren't they warned by Allah that he didn't have a son?

    In the Old Testament we are told not to twist the word of God found in the Torah and if anybody did it was instantaneous death because Jehovah is an angry god. If the words of the Jewish book were flawed, how come Moses who spoke with God didn't get an update on the flaws and immediately corrected. Why wasn''t Moses told about the Jinn, told about Ishmael being laid on the sacrificial alter and not Isaac?

    And even Jesus performed miracles, why wasn't he updated?

    All these things point to some flaws in the Quran itself.
     
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  12. kafer

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    #52

    Your analogy is absurd and your logic is based on a fallacy. Namely you are using what is know as “argumentum ad populum” which means that you make your conclusion based on a proposition assumed to be true just because many people of the bible believe it.

    You are saying that the Quran is wrong because the bible is correct! You are judging the Quran on an incorrectly pre-assumed facts.

    You must first prove the historicity of the biblical characters and their stories to be true before you can start accusing the Quran of being wrong and confused. Why couldn’t the Quran version be right and the bible version wrong?
     
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  13. trocobob

    trocobob Banned

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    #53
    These are only absurd arguments . and wrong analysed ... The Quran is from God and it have no flaw .. I wonder why did post such arguments with doing some good researchs .
    Try again
     
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  14. The Webmaster

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    #54
    And what is the proof of that?
     
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  15. dilipsam

    dilipsam Well-Known Member

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    #55
    How it is wrong? What absurd arguments? The Old Testament existed during Christ's time. Why wasn't he told to make amendments? Only when God reveals himself to Muhammed does all these changes take place: most of teachings reversed and some subverted teaching to kill Jews, Christians and idolaters.

    Some of the prophets married more than once but your prophet, who slept with many women and is also accused of being a pedophile, saw to it that Jewish women who, after their husbands were beheaded, were raped. Can anybody tell me which prophet in the old testament raped and killed people? None: David did that but he's a king but he was warned and let off by God through a prophet who communicated with God (Warned not to take other people's wives and lives)

    http://www.prophetofdoom.net/Prophet_of_Doom_19_Islams_Holocaust.Islam

    Usually updates are supposed to enhance life right? What did Islam do to enhance lives of the people? It only kills.

    I think Abraham too killed idolaters but when Moses was given an update, followers were told not commit adultery and murder. Islam reveres Moses, right? I assume these teachings hold good for your prophet too.

    Finally, Muslims give more importance to Mohd, every mosque I pass-by talks only about Mohd's life. What about Christ or other prophets? They too are great prophets for you right? So in short Islam has forgotten all the old prophets and pays more attention to this meglomaniac.
     
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  16. Idiot Inside

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    #56
    What kind of proof would be satisfactory for you?

    If something mentioned in Quran 1400 years ago, something like prediction or advise is proven right with the help of modern science .. will it work for you? If it will, I can try presenting you something ... but if I will face the blind cross-religion mentality again, I will pass.
     
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    dilipsam Well-Known Member

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    #57
    Yeah I know, they'll immediate point out that their prophet never knew to read or write.
     
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    #58
    Bring the god down on earth, and make him say that Quran is the word of him..
    everything else would be imaginary...

    Mate, I have seen statements in quran, none of them clearly state anything..
    they are some vague statements open to various interpretations..

    Many religions such as Hinduism, way to older than Islam have some books, scriptures that have some statements written thousands years ago than Islam and being proved completely right today..
     
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    #59
    If islam would be a RPG, then that would be totally awesome lol. If I can get a chance i will make an RPG on islam, then degrade it so bad that people would hate themselves being in that religion.
     
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    #60
    Only Read a part of it .and you will know .
    I suggest you to read it in arabic . ( because the translated Quran loose its true meaning ) , I assure you that you will change your opinion ..

    Freindly ..:)

    Trocobob
     
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