Why do I get almost no hits from Yahoo?

Discussion in 'Yahoo' started by gary99, Nov 29, 2005.

  1. catwomaseven

    catwomaseven Peon

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    #21
    Me tooo I dont get it! I was # 1 in yahoo now, I cant been seen in yahoo but am #1 in google for my keywords... not complaining on the google side but I need and miss my yahoo traffic!!
     
    catwomaseven, Dec 5, 2005 IP
  2. rmccarley

    rmccarley Peon

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    #22
    Y!'s bot is Inktomi Slurp. And this may help you get crawled/indexed faster: http://www.14thc.com/get-indexed-fast.html ;)
     
    rmccarley, Dec 5, 2005 IP
  3. catwomaseven

    catwomaseven Peon

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    #23
    So I dont get it, why is Yahoo being so odd...

    Years ago, it was hard to understand googles way, not it yahoo...

    anyother adive for me?
     
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  4. rmccarley

    rmccarley Peon

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    #24
    Y! has been all over the map since they expanded their DB. Suddenly they had tons of irrelevant pages in the index - including pages that had been deleted years prior. Trying to balance this influx with relevant sites seems to be more than Y! was prepared to do. Since then they have done a few minor updates and one that actually caused a blip on my screen - but it was right in the middle of G's Jagger mess so it went largely unnoticed. But since that one I've noticed significant drops in traffic and seen many posts describing the same.

    The problem here is two-fold: 1.) A loss of position. With the influx of pages Y! needed to prove theirs was bigger (which it wasn't and it didn't last long anyway) many quality sites got sqeezed out. 2.) A loss of traffic. Somehoe even sites that have maintained their positions (like mine) still aren't seeing the traffic they used to. I have "top 10" KWs that used to send me lots of visits. Now it's barely a trickle.

    So the question is, where is that traffic going?

    Side note/speculation: I really think Y! is seeing the writing on the wall. A lot of their PR moves seem desperate (like expanding the DB and doing an update in the midst of a G update). There's a "me too!" mentality about them. I'm also hearing of them pushing ad sales more, including calling web masters about their programs! This is almost shocking behaviour for an Internet company. It really makes me think they are positioning themselves for a buyout. MSN would be wise to snatch them up. It would put MSN within real competitive distance of G. On the other hand, if G grabbed up Y!, MSN would be that much further behind. Either way, the execs at Y! would make a mint. I think we'll have to wait and see until after the AOL sale goes through to find out if this is what they are up to. I'm sure someone at Y! is watching this process with great interest.
     
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  5. frenchmen77

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    #25
    I thought it was just me, I'v seen a drop in Y! traffic lately, I was going to post a new topic - for one of my keywords I'm #5 on google, #4 on msn, and not even in the top 100 in yahoo. Its like that for most of my keywords but wasn't a few months ago. If you look at the alexa rank Y! is still #1 but looks like its starting to drop...
     
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  6. ketanshah

    ketanshah Peon

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    #26
    Hi

    The ratio of Google Vs Yahoo leads to your site should be usualy 4:1

    Your's is too low and it has to do with the way both rank pages.
     
    ketanshah, Dec 6, 2005 IP
  7. hdpt00

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    #27
    I was #1 for a huge keyword, very money, and brought in less than 100 per day. If I hadn't been banned from google right before my time to come out of the sandbox I imagine the same ranking would bring in 2,000 per day.

    I've slipped to #6 in yahoo for that money term, barely brining in anything now.
     
    hdpt00, Dec 9, 2005 IP
  8. texisman

    texisman Well-Known Member

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    #28
    I've been getting most of my traffic through google although I can type a keyword in there search and can't find my site untill page 4 or 5. I usually get 1,2, or 3 in MSN and I don't know what's up with yahoo. I get some results from them but can't ever find my site in the top pages at yahoo.
     
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  9. PlanetAndrea

    PlanetAndrea Active Member

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    #29
    yeah same here, 95% of my searches come from msn, and maybe 2% from google....sucks butt
     
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  10. apblake

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    #30
    I agree that something is going on with Yahoo, but people are definitely still using Yahoo. For the month of October Yahoo officially received more than 30% of search traffic (according to reports generated for the investment community). They weren't far behind Google, but I find these stats a little hard to believe. Anyway, clearly the number of searches in Yahoo did not drop in a matter of a month, so the reason for the drop in traffic must be explained some other way.
     
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  11. DevilfruiT

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    #31
    I agree that plenty of people still use Yahoo. My Yahoo traffic is still higher than MSN's (most days anyways), and I have #1 spots for both. This is despite Yahoo using their directory title for my site.
     
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  12. hans

    hans Well-Known Member

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    #32
    in my experience G vs Y - Y has very different SERPS for particular tops or industries

    a recent site i cared for - in hotel industry - has permanently more traffic from Y than from G
    while my own site is in the range of

    0.22% Yahoo!
    4.87% Google

    in addition
    these past few weeks slurp drastically reduced its activity to a fraction what it used to be for long
    early year until few weeks back slurp was equal or more actively indexing my site than G
    while now since a few weeks slurp is back to what it was before spring this year

    while in most search terms the SERPS between G and Y are almost identical
    Y seems to have certain topics or industrial groups of sites/topics where keywords ranking 1 or top 10 in G simply are nowhere in Y

    which lets me assume that Y may have different algos or may be filters for different industries
    which of course may make sense
    remembering the years of Y charging substantial amounts for directory entries to certain topic categories
    may be they still "protect" those who paid the 199 or 299 annual fee for directory entries and keep the free market out of such SERPS ??

    otherwise Y certainly has its unique power
    in RSS for example it takes but minutes or less than an hour for a feed to appear in Y NEWS search results - beta blog box on the right of the news search result page on Y

    Yahoo's power in RSS and Blog technology

    that above example was exceeded a day ago when I saw a new RSS post within less than an hour after sending the RSS-ping to Y

    hence i assume Y and G can only partially compare - both have unique users that give totally different results depending on the market a site is
     
    hans, Dec 10, 2005 IP
  13. Web Gazelle

    Web Gazelle Well-Known Member

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    #33
    I noticed a drop in Slurp activity. Is it going into hibernation? :D
     
    Web Gazelle, Dec 12, 2005 IP
  14. gary99

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    #34
    I've got a tech blog I started maybe 3 weeks ago. This month, I've had the following search engine hits:

    Google: 326
    MSN: 41
    Yahoo: 0

    I've been "slurped" 62 times this month (427 hits from GoogleBot, however). Guess they just don't like me. Yahoo must be doing something majorly different.
     
    gary99, Dec 12, 2005 IP
  15. hans

    hans Well-Known Member

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    #35
    Yahoo LOVES your blog - all blogs and RSS feeds
    but may be you did never loved Yahoo
    OR
    do you PING Yahoo whenever you have new posts in your blog ??
    or a new RSS post

    PING Yahoo

    after a ping for blog or RSS - it usually takes less than a minute for the yahoo bot "YahooFeedSeeker" to be on your site ...

    see Yahoo for more information for publishers

    http://publisher.yahoo.com/rssguide

    the ping API URL for the blog is the same at Yahoo as for your RSS feed
    just replace the RSS URL with your blog-URL
     
    hans, Dec 12, 2005 IP
  16. rmccarley

    rmccarley Peon

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    #36
    I don't know...

    Yahoo is on my site 2-3 times per day. But I get almost no traffic from them, even on terms that I have "top 10" SERPs in.

    It's strange behaviour.
     
    rmccarley, Dec 12, 2005 IP
  17. Web Gazelle

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    #37
    It is a sign that Yahoo is losing market share. :p
     
    Web Gazelle, Dec 16, 2005 IP
  18. escante

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    #38
    It depends on your on the topic of your website.
     
    escante, Dec 16, 2005 IP
  19. cooper99

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    #39
    I have a good rankings on some competitive keywords in Yahoo yet very little traffic as well. Less than 10% of my traffic is coming from Yahoo.
     
    cooper99, Dec 16, 2005 IP