Why do DMOZ editors waste so much time?

Discussion in 'ODP / DMOZ' started by pctec, Oct 29, 2006.

  1. #1
    I read dozens of forums and it seems to me that there are so many editors running around posting the virtues of DMOZ and the nature of its high quality. I could never understand why it is that they don’t edit their category instead of defending the machine.

    The arguments:
    ---Editors are volunteers---
    Yes they are but if you do volunteer for something then maybe actually do something instead of listing a few including your own or someone’s you know then disappearing.
    ---Editors have lives too---
    As does everyone… if you have time to defend the ODP, you have time to edit it.
    ---DMOZ owes you nothing---
    True enough… but if you claim to be the best of the best you owe it to yourself to be what you claim.
    ---Submit and forget---
    Very nice idea but unrealistic… There is no way to check if your site was reviewed and rejected. There is no way to tell if it’s still in cue. When you submit a site and wait 6 months and nothing happens, you have the option to resubmit… However, if your site is still in cue, it gets sent back to the bottom…
    ---DMOZ editors have been threatened---
    This is a very strange argument… If a DMOZ editor rejected a site and then contacted a Webmaster from a traceable source then there is always that possibility. We all know an anonymous system could easily be set up to let webmasters know if their site was in cue or rejected. Something as simple as a log in self serve check system. So there is really no excuse for all the secrets.
    ---DMOZ has thousands of editors---
    Yes they do… then why is it that the directory has so many broken links, irrelevant content, and sites that have no value whatsoever to the directory? Oh yes… editors have personal lives and cynical posts to make…

    I have read all the arguments for and against the ODP and in all honesty the entire thing is foolish.

    I would have to assume each and every editor has a PDF handbook of generic answers to everyone’s concerns because they are the same wherever you go. Some forums I have totally abandoned because all you get there is a defense response to every issue that arises.

    Let all be honest here… DMOZ has many issues but even so most of us want to be listed in it. There have been arguments that 1 link is one link. While that may be true, the ODP link has more “weight” than another directory. One of the reasons for this is so many DMOZ clones out there leeching the info straight from the source. So one link in DMOZ is more like fifty.

    There are those who would agree, there are those who would not… I’m sure they will all comment here soon…
     
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  2. EveryQuery

    EveryQuery Well-Known Member

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    OMG! How old are you, 12? If you have time to bash editors about how much time they spend editing, then you have time to volunteer yourself. :eek:

    This is the reason so many editors post on forums like this one. People REFUSE to submit and forget it. Don't worry about your DMOZ submission(s). Move on with your life. What exactly do all these morons that obsess over a DMOZ listing think they are getting? :rolleyes:
     
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  3. pctec

    pctec Well-Known Member

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    LOL
    That didnt take long... I am 40 I'll have you know. I was not bashing, I was stating a fact.
    I did have more paragraphs... you could pick it apart better than that ;)
    If I had misspelled a word would you find it?

    edit:
    BTW, I did apply to edit... you would never guess what happened...
    hahaha
     
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  4. Marx

    Marx Peon

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    They need to get more editors, instead of rejecting perfectly good applicants for lamo reasons and technicalities :mad: :mad: :mad:

    Sorry for the rant I still a little bear the emotional scars of being rejected for the second time :(
     
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    EveryQuery Well-Known Member

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    What kind of response were you expecting? You mention that you get the same responses to these questions every where you go. What else do you want?
     
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    popotalk Notable Member

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    Unlikely PP. Some editors post to get the attention needed for promotion. ;)

    Most of us never was. :)

    "Answers" which editors doesn't have the guts to answer.
     
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  7. pctec

    pctec Well-Known Member

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    PortProphecy:
    No I did not say I get that response... I said I read those responses... I had no reason to ask as I knew the answer I would get.
    I think you should learn to read objectively.
     
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    EveryQuery Well-Known Member

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    Objectively? Buddy, I am not affiliated with DMOZ in any way. I have no problems criticizing the many problems with DMOZ (as I have here many, many times), but I also should point out that you are wasting time that good be better spent on your websites and their well-being than worrying about 1 backlink, probably on a page with little or no PR value. You can spend the next couple years doing exactly what you are doing in this thread, getting the exact same answers, or you can just move on. This is an honest, objective recommendation. I am not an editor.
     
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    pctec Well-Known Member

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    I dont spend 24 hours a day on my site buddy. The last time I submitted to the ODP was a year ago. I do not obsess over it either. I stated facts... you choose to insult my intelligence with this remark.
    So YOU need to move on Mr PR5
     
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    compostannie Peon

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    But you expect volunteer DMOZ editors to spend 24 hours a day editing? I know you think you posted a lot of "facts" but I'm not going to waste my time picking any of them apart. There's no point, everything you say is complete nonsense.

    Although I do believe you when you say you don't spend 24 hours a day working on your site. I looked at it. Maybe you should spend just a little more time working on it and less time complaining about what other people do with their free time. :rolleyes:
     
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    pctec Well-Known Member

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    LOL

    Yup, thanks for the advice...
     
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    fathom Well-Known Member

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    Ya I could never understand why you're so obsessed about another's leisure time... worry about your own... problem solved.
     
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    Well, I for one come here for the light entertainment and the enlightening interaction with a rich tapestry of unique individuals whom one would not normally run into.

    For example where else can you listen to the wisdom of a porno webmaster with a stable of porn sites whose is on an anti-porn campaign against Dmoz.

    Or the self professed thug from a Manila slum who repeatedly tells us how hot he is with chicks, how big his dangler is and how corrupt the ODP is.

    Or the SEO wiz who claims that he has throng of corrupt editors listing his sites when in reality every site he is associated with is permanently banned and the chance of any of his sites getting listed has much in common with hell freezing over.
     
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    Pctec, rather than wasting your time doing things that I don't care about, I demand that you go out to the animal shelters in your area and volunteer your time. Walk the dogs and keep the kennels clean. Make sure you keep doing it every day...no make that twice a day. And remember, now that I've made this unreasonable demand there's no excuse for you to waste your time doing anything else. Ever! Step away from the computer and GO!
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    You forget the DMOZ editor, who claims to be a hot shot in DMOZ but in reality is just a little maggot who has no power to do anything, accept kissing the corrupt editors ass. ;)
     
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    mirturk Active Member

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    Never mind dmoz They don't want more competitor.I don't care them.
     
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    Mirturk, as far as I know dmoz doesn't have a competitor. :confused:
     
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    Just a quick clarification here. As far as I can tell, there really is no "bottom" to be sent to. DMOZ editors aren't required to review sites in any particular order, so a site submitted 2 weeks ago could be approved, while a site submitted 2 years ago could remain unreviewed in the queue.

    When I review my queue, I tend to skip around looking for titles or descriptions that catch my eye. I usually start by finding sites that don't belong in my category at all, like non-English sites, and forward them on to the appropriate category. Sometimes I don't look at the queue at all and just add sites that I know about from working in the industry.

    And yes, this means I add my competitors' websites. :D
     
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    I submitted my site to DMOZ about 8months ago. This site is a)W3C b)Pr6 c)Has good Alexa

    ....... Im just wondering.... The only thing it hasnt got is a DMOZ listing and....... I thought with having all 3 of them it would help you know, :eek: Obviusly not,
     
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    W3C, PR6, has good Alexa, are of no interest at all to editors. The only thing that matters is the content the editor can see on the site, the same as if they were just any other surfer of your site. None of those factors you mentioned is an indicator of decent quality original information, you are dealing with humans not robots.
     
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