Why didn’t we warn Japan we would use the bomb if they didn’t surrender?

ok right... so they first tested their nuclear fission of uranium 235 bomb on aug, 6th. And in only 3 days later they decide to test a plutonium one.

I highly doubt it, that US could find no better solution. They just prefer to drop the bomb than really trying end it with a discussion.

 

You can ignore the facts and make up shit all you want. The truth is there in black and white for your to read - why you pretend there was no discussion and repeated warnings is your problem. You can chose to remain ignorant, but when you post here we all know it.

 

It would be wrong in any situation other than WWII. All rules were thrown out after the Germans, and Japanese slaughtered at least 20 million CIVILIANS combined. I don't even think slaughtered is an appropriate term, it was beyond torture what those countries did to people. The US was not the bad guy, we had to end the war.

Pulled from wikipedia of what the Japanese did in one experiment to Chinese civilians, and soldiers. Keep in mind this was done with out anesthesia: "To determine the treatment of frostbite, prisoners were taken outside in freezing weather and left with exposed arms, periodically drenched with water until frozen solid. The arm was later amputated; the doctor would repeat the process on the victim’s upper arm to the shoulder. After both arms were gone, the doctors moved on to the legs until only a head and torso remained. The victim was then used for plague and pathogens experiments"

 

It is useless to argue with them, Browntwn. They are obviously too young to have been there or had close relatives who were there during that tumultuous time. And, they never paid attention in history class. These are probably the same people who are saying that the whole Nazi Concentration Camp thing was made up and no Jews were ever executed. No argument will convince them. They are bound and determine to rethink the whole thing and place blame where it makes them the most comfortable.

 

I know there were warning and request for japan to surrender. I just believed that if US really wanted to, they had the power to end it with diplomacy at that point. It might of prolonged the war for another 2 weeks of so, but dropping a second bomb was not necessary to end the war in my opinion.

It was just their decision to drop the second one because they wanted to try it out and maybe it was just the simpler thing to do for them but not necessary, there was choice is what I'm saying.

 

Yes, I know and not only to Chinese people but to the koreans and others also.
They did lots of things, including shooting them and having their doctors attempt to rescue them as training.

Til this day there hasn't been much of a formal apology from the Japan unlike Germany that banned Nazis and apologizes for it every year. Plus they still got that temple for those soldiers which were trial for war criminals and officials sometime today still go and worship them which is the primary reason why Chinese and Koreans still hate Japan so much til this day.

 

It is a fact that the war was close to over. I just dispute the concept that they had no idea what was getting ready to happen to them. They had the opportunity to surrender, pride just got in the way and it resulted in thousands of more deaths. I consider them to be equally responsible.

 

They just wanted surrender on their terms. One of which where they wanted them to not be punished for war crimes.

They wanted to negotiated to get a better surrender term for themselves basically that's all.

Basically what US did is say Nope, surrender on this term only, end of discussion or we'll just drop another one.

 

So the country who started the war, and committed an unbelievable amount of crime should be able to surrender on their terms? Let's say some guy goes on a killing spree, and murders ten people. With what you just said he should be able to have a say in the the charges pressed against him, and the time he spends in jail? That's ridiculous.

 

Duh... When you are losing a war you don't get to demand terms.

Try it the next time someone is kicking the crap out of you. Tell us if it works.

 

Very funny post....true and funny.

 

Meantime, if you kill someone which you are kicking the crap out of, the pretext "he didn't surrender" won't really work in court either, oh well, nvm, there isn't really a need of examples to point out the flaws of attempts to justify the use of nukes anyway.

 

Well Leo, I think it will work in a court of law. Did you forget that they were trying to kill us? They started the war and bombed the crap out of us.

Pearl Harbor? Hello? Anybody home?

Did you ride the little bus to school, or what?

 

i do not understand how Christians that are against abortion because of the life show such disregard for the lost of life in other situations

 

Well make sure you don't count on it

Pearl Harbor statistics:
2,345 military and 57 civilians killed,
1,247 military and 35 civilians wounded

Japan:
140,000 people in Hiroshima
80,000 in Nagasaki
In both cities, the overwhelming majority of the dead were civilians
Source: Wiki

Do you notice anything wrong with the ratios?

 

Its very tragic that so many military lives were lost at Pearl Harbor. We are peaceful allies with the Japanese now.

 

I'm sorry you can't understand defending your country. Maybe you should think in a more personal way. The sooner the war is over, the sooner our troops are safely back home.

If that doesn't hit home, spend a little time thinking about the sons and daughters that were killed at Pearl Harbor and the sons and daughters that will die every day that the war continues. Then you will want to end the war ASAP.

It's all nice and warm and fuzzy of you to think of the Japanese as victims of the evil U. S. military machine. The fact remains that we were attacked and we were at war.

I think it's a pretty far stretch to compare a mother and a baby to two nations at war.

 

Yeah, you'd think they would have surrendered after the first one!

 

R. J. Rummel, a professor of political science at the University of Hawaii, states that between 1937 and 1945, the Japanese military murdered from nearly 3,000,000 to over 10,000,000 people, most probably 6,000,000 Chinese, Indonesians, Koreans, Filipinos, and Indochinese, among others, including Western prisoners of war. This democide was due to a morally bankrupt political and military strategy, military expediency and custom, and national culture."[23] According to Rummel, in China alone, during 1937-45, approximately 3.9 million Chinese were killed, mostly civilians, as a direct result of the Japanese operations and 10.2 millions in the course of the war.[24]

The most infamous incident during this period was the Nanking Massacre of 1937-38, when, according to the findings of the International Military Tribunal for the Far East, the Japanese Army massacred as many as 200,000 civilians and prisoners of war, although the accepted figure is somewhere in the hundreds of thousands.[25] Similar crime was the Changjiao massacre. In Southeast Asia, the Manila massacre, resulted in the deaths of 100,000 civilians in the Philippines and in the Sook Ching massacre, between 25,000 and 50,000 ethnic Chinese in Singapore were taken to beaches and massacred. There were numerous other massacres of civilians e.g. the Kalagong massacre.

From Wiki.

Did you forget that CHINA was part of the Potsdam Declaration?

Your attempts to spin WWII and make the allies look like the bad guys is a sad testament to your ignorance or blindness.

 

no it is not only this there is also the issue of capital punishment .
i am not saying that US should or should not have done it, as i have not been in that situation and i can not make an informed opinion. I am just sad for all the life lost. I agree that Japan was the aggressor also and they bear the great majority of the responsibility.
starting a war is also another issue.How come Christians knowing what we know now still support the Iraq war?