Why didn’t we warn Japan we would use the bomb if they didn’t surrender?

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  1. atvking

    atvking Active Member

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    #41
    warning of fire bombing would be nice too...civilians are civilians even in japan not just the USA

    but they did not know about the abomb...the holes in the floors prove it...they thought it was just another bombing campaign...
     
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    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #42
    I take that as a compliment.

    By the way, it is American not american.
     
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  3. bogart

    bogart Notable Member

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    #43
    The US only had two bombs and it would have taken at least 6 months to make more.

    In the meantime the Russians would have taken Manchuria, Korea and pushed into Japan.
     
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    lightless Notable Member

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    #44
    Mind to post some thoughts on my universalism thread about being possibly just a simple man living in the world.
     
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  5. JohnScott

    JohnScott Notable Member

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    #45
    That's debatable.

    It could be argued that civilians support material support for the war machinery. In Japan's case, even women and children were trained to kill when they expected an invasion of the mainland.

    If the US attacked, say, China, do you think the world would hold the military and the government responsible? Or perhaps they would hold the entire population responsible, as they did with the German population. Remember, it isn't just war criminals but the entire population of Germany that paid war reparations.
     
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  6. N_F_S

    N_F_S Active Member

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    #46
    Well, a huge country like US can win without nuking a nation, can't it?

    What if everyone uses nukes, what if Russia warned Georgia and then used nukes on them, would you say the same?

    The point is to not use nukes, use everything else in 100's of wars if you wish. The right answer was already said: US tested the new toy on japanese.
     
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  7. jkjazz

    jkjazz Peon

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    #47
    Wow, what a bunch of crybabies.

    "You Americans are so bad. Why didn't you warn the Japanese?"

    There are posts showing that they were warned.

    "But you didn't say you were going to use an A bomb. You just said you were going to utterly destroy their cities. I think you cheated. Waaaaaaaaa"

    Then there are posts showing the leaflets that warned about the A bomb.

    "But the civilians were not educated about atomic bomb technology and were unable to understand what you meant by 'utterly destroyed'. Waaaaaaaa'"

    I think your original queries have been answered. We did warn the Japanese that we would use the A Bomb if they didn't surrender. Why are you still crying?
     
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  8. N_F_S

    N_F_S Active Member

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    #48
    jkjazz, who cares about warning? The thread author probably, not me. Im talking about the USE of nukes, EVEN if you warn someone who hasnt got such WMD's.
     
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  9. Lexiseek

    Lexiseek Banned

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    #49
    If I plan on punching you in the face, I won't tell you first. You'll know.
     
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  10. N_F_S

    N_F_S Active Member

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    #50
    Oh really?

    So, how come you dont use the famous punch in:

    Iraq, Afghanistan, Kosovo, Pakistan and so on?

    Wouldn it make things much easier? 9/11 happened, why didnt you nuke the whole islam world? (cos you are saying they are the once to blame)
     
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  11. jkjazz

    jkjazz Peon

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    #51
    I think they would have too be pretty stupid to attack a country with a nuclear arsenal, don't you? We are talking about a country that attacked us and declared war on us, aren't we?

    What would you propose? You want to send our sons and daughters over to meet their bullets? That won't work.
     
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    #52
    It's a shame the US doesn't do this to the middle east and solve the worlds trouble.
     
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    #53
    :confused:
    Strange way to go about solving trouble for sure. We might as well nuke the whole planet to hell and enjoy the afterlife.
     
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    #54
    They refused to surrender. We actually did warn the government and the civilians as well.
     
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    atvking Active Member

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    #55
    yes japans war torn on-life-support machinery did get support from civilians who had the option:

    1) fight
    2) get a bullet to the head

    real men fear not trained women and children...but i am talking about real men so i guess the arguments dont fit here...

    i dont believe in punishing civilians over the actions of a handful of people...when war breaks out the no brain gun happy "neocons" come to power in every country...the truth is if you were an average joe in japan at the time you had no choice but to fight for the people who came to your house with guns and recruited you by force...
     
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    #56
    By that statment I see you have never been to a war zone other than serbia. In the Middle East and Africa kids as young as 13 and 14 can handle the weapon as well as men and would have no problem placing a bullet through you. Women and children are used in many parts of the world as suicide bombers. US Soldiers are real men you guys are not talking about serbian soldiers.

    Don't forget that Japan started the war with the US.

    Japan was told the bombing would occur if they did not surrender. The Japanese government is at fault.

    I will ask again.

    Are you Pro Al-Qaeda and Anti-American .......or just Pro Al-Qaeda?.....Or just Anti-American?
     
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    #57
    I agree jkjazz...
    Some people got too much time on their hands. :rolleyes:
     
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  18. Edmond Dantes

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    #58
    it certainly is
     
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    Gomar Well-Known Member

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    #59
    No, this is not debatable. Just look at it from a rational point.

    What the first guy said should of ended this thread.

    "Cause we didn't want to"

    It's pretty obvious they just wanted to test out the two types of newly acquired bomb.

    BTW dropping a Atom Bomb in a civilian populated city is different from attacking a military fleet.

    You can maybe just maybe give a rational argument on why they drop the first Atom bomb, but the fact that they dropped a second one just tells you that they didn't want Japan to just surrender. They rather drop the bomb to see what it can do.

    They could of easily just show the japs, that we got more of them and we are going to drop them if you don't surrender and that would of ended it.
     
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    #60

    This is exactly what happened. It didn't end it. They had the opportunity to surrender before the second one was dropped. In fact, they were even asked to surrender again before the second one was dropped.
     
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