Why did most of the students massacre happened in US?

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  1. brk

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    #21
    The weapons or not discussion is not so relevant to the case in my opinion.

    The guy just went nuts.

    It was easier for him with a gun and there might be some issues with security, but a backpack loaded with explosives could have been even worse, and as far I know it's not to hard to make a bomb, actually the materials needed are probably less difficult to get than a gun.

    But the shooter went for the easiest way, the american way, the way that he said made him do that...

    So again, the problem is with these people that go nuts...
     
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  2. Crazy_Rob

    Crazy_Rob I seen't it!

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    #22
    Where did I say guns should be banned? :confused:
     
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    #23
    Sorry, I guess I was jumping to conclusions.

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    I just figured you were leaning that way. :eek:
     
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    #24
    Would be better! Or is hunting the only way you can bring the food on the table?
     
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  5. samantha pia

    samantha pia Prominent Member

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    #25
    the USA are more worried about protecting their right to guns than protecting their children's right to life.
    i said it before, and i'll say it again, you need to ban guns.
     
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  6. James12513

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    #26
    I totally agree with you Samantha. This is would stop some of the killings but then there would be big undergroud practices selling the guns illegally. But could work, I would support it the whole way!
     
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  7. Smaaz

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    #27

    Ok, lets say you have the gun only for self protection...but lets also say, that you have a kid - and one day your kid takes the gun to school, without your knowledge...
    ...that is this shit happens.
     
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  8. Josh Inno

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    #28
    Nope. It just says that "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

    And hunting is actually fairly common in mountain states like colorado, and in states where the deer population is healthy, but you have to kill them to keep it so, due to the near lack of preditors.

    Many farmers/ranchers use guns to protect their live stock and loved ones from preditors, which is part of what causes the near lack of preditors talked about above.
     
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    #29
    No it isn't. These things happen because there are selfish people out there who can't deal with their problems rationally.
     
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  10. Josh Inno

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    #30
    And schools are "gun free zones" but when someone wants to break the law to kill someone, they break the law to bring the gun into that zone.

    If I recall there was a case where there was a highschool mass shooting, and then the person who did said shooting got in his car to go drive to the -middle- school, but a teacher from the school was waiting the legal distance from the school, and shot to prevent him from getting there. He waited outside the legal distance only so that he would not be breaking the law by bringing the gun onto school grounds.
     
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  11. Stax_Daniel

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    #31
    to point out something other than the guns...since the question asked was why does it mostly happen in the US?...

    another good thing to take into account...US is the 3rd largest country in the world based on population....which means there are also more people to go crazy...
     
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    #32
    I live in the UK, and guns are more strictly controlled over here. We still have violent crime though. Not on the scale of the recent massacre in the USA, but we have a lot of stabbings. Take away guns, and people just use knives I guess :(
     
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  13. Josh Inno

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    #33
    Actually, I feel that the right to bear arms is essential to my protection of my other rights, such as my right to defend myself, and my family. Including my right to speak out against the government when it goes to far. Including my right to religion. Including my right to just about darn anything else.
     
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    #34
    And samurai swords. Don't forget samurai swords.

    And then you band knives over a certain length. Including some kitchen knives. And people that protest this say that people are more interested in preserving their right to have cooking knives than their children's right to life.
     
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    #35
    Which is why many statistics are presented as per capita.
     
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  16. Stax_Daniel

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    #36
    protecting your childs right to life has nothing to do with guns...i really don't see how people think banning guns would fix anything...

    would it cut down on violence?...possibly

    would it stop it?...no

    would it make people find other alternatives?...yes

    killing people is illegal...so if you can get the gun legally, and kill someone illegally...then what would the difference be if both were illegal??...
     
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    #38
    There is no excuse for this kind of stupidity.
     
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  19. samantha pia

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    #39
    carrying any knife or pointed tool, like a screw driver in public is an offence in the uk unless you have good cause.
    hand guns are also banned in the uk with a very few excptions

    1988 Criminal Justice Act Section 139
    Possession in Public Place
    It may be an offence under the Criminal Justice Act to carry a bladed or sharply pointed instrument in a public place, unless a good reason an be provided for carrying same.

    Exemption: Folding pocket knife with cutting edge less than 3 inches (non-locking).

    Criminal Justice Act 1988 and Sale & Marketing of Knives Act 1997
    Sale of Knives

    It is illegal to sell a knife to an under eighteen year old.

    The Criminal Justice Act 1988 banned the sale of amongst other items, throwing stars, belt buckle knives, push daggers and butterfly knives. Flick knives have been banned since the 1950's.

    It is an offence to sell or market a knife in such a way that it suggests it is suitable for personal injury.
     
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  20. SolutionX

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    #40
    Oh yeah, that would work. Lets call it "The war on guns". Givin the excellent result of the war on drugs, I'd say it's destined for success.
     
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