Why designers are switching to Macs

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  2. qazu

    qazu Well-Known Member

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    They're probably just falling for Apple's marketing tricks :p
     
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    Yes, that's the true reason :)
     
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    May be Mac is relied in terms of stability and better memory management, which windows usually maintains a dum head
     
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    Windows does for me everything I need it to do. I see no reason to move over to Mac. Anyway, I'm awaiting for Windows 7 baby!
     
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    1: OSX - he goes onto describe pure aesthetics... just tripped over his own foot there.
    2: Intel Inside - Most of the computer power is dedicated to support the OS itself, nevermind the software.
    3: Less Hassle - If you know what you're doing yes, but those who have always used windows will have to start the learning process all over again and since a LOT of people have been using windows for a long time thats a lot of people. Also as far as support goes, my nearest "apple shop" is not so close, google any windows problem the solution is always there somewhere. Windows has far far more superior support on the internet or on the high street then apple will ever have. If you are a web-designer working on cross-platform you are going to need MICROSOFT internet explorer as most people are using that pile of rubbish at the moment. (Soon to change though, i'm sure).
    4: Talks about development by some committee in a bubble, can anyone point him in the direction of the .NET developers community? the xna games development community? it's all intelligent free tools with free support. Even talks about the open-source movement like apple is even close to a warm hearted corporation. Capitalist commercialism at its absolute best!
    5: Again with the aesthetics, great, it's not like windows is ugly anyway, vista, windows 7 and windows xp are fully customizable.

    You can jabber on about mac and apple products, but theres always a cheaper/free and better alternative - ALWAYS! You only have to make the effort and look, instead of surrendering to their ad campaigns that are thrown at you about 3/4 times a day. Yuck yuck yuck.

    It's windows and open-source all the way for me.
     
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    My Mac runs windows through parallels quicker than any pc I've had in recent years. Converted 99% to Mac in early 06 and haven't looked back. I went through 7 PC's in 12 years and am yet to even start thinking about looking at another computer.

    It may be marketing hype, it may be a lot of things - but I can honestly say it was the best hardware/software decision I've made in years.

    Learning curve was not as difficult as I thought, principally because I was having an each way bet as far as running the windows OS via Parallels (correct - I was not that brave and somewhat unsure originally).

    My principal work has nothing to do with design - I made the move after purchasing my wife a G4 in 03 and seeing how she coped with it. The "inhouse" support requirements when down dramatically after switching - that in itself was worth the extra dollars (gradually have weened the whole house off PC's and onto Macs - my life has never been easier as far as "complaints" go at home).
     
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  8. drhowarddrfine

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    That is a rank amateur statement. You can't compare OSX to Windows extreme bloat on that.
    So Macs don't work like Windows. Imagine that. Remember, though, that is a good thing. Windows doesn't work like Macs either.
    Google any Mac problem and the solution is there somewhere, too. Your "Windows shop" is probably down the street from the apple shop.
    As far as what?
    Talk about being in a bubble. .NET development is small time compared to open source. The only .NET language in the top 10 of all languages is VB. If you think C# ranks even close, think again.
    GAmes?! ARe we talking professional programming or games?
    Since when do we associate Microsoft anything with free anything? Yeah, they have some free stuff. How far does anyone go with Microsoft's "free stuff"?
    Yes. And there are cheaper and free cars at the used car lot down the street from your house but do you really want one?
    Instead you have surrendered to Microsoft's ad campaign? What's the diff?
    No professional programmer worth their salt would develop on Windows if the target wasn't Windows. *nix is far more reliable, dependable, adaptable, interoperable, (and free) than any other OS, and Macs are a close second.

    Windows development is not free or easy, does not play with others, proprietary, constantly changing (requiring source code change).
     
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    Yes, just like no professional programmer worth their salt would develop on anything other than Windows if the target was Windows. What would be the point? And let's face it, Windows has the market as far as computer software is concerned. :(

    Open source is open source, whether its developed for a windows system or not and there are open source software developed with free software (Visual Studio Express, C# Express, and SQL Server Express, for example).
     
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    Dont know if any of you are aware that mac was the first OS to offer design software, use "windows" and mouse operation and, to this day, is the choice of print a design companies the world over. Microsoft copied and, in my humble opinion, failed to deliver to the diehard and original designers, but somehow managed to market so well that the whole world uses microsoft (include me there coz I do too,) but I still think for design, mac is way superior.
     
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    Was being the keyword there.

    They used to be much better for graphic and other multimedia work but now they have switched to using the same as PC's and so now it's basically whatever OS you prefer...:rolleyes: and that macs look pretty (but who cares about that? Vain people...:p)
     
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    Big films companies use MAC because it's better for graphics and sound.

    So now , i think disgners use too for the same reason
     
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    Maybe 20 years ago but nowadays the 64-bit PC is much more competitive
     
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    Wrong. Windows has the desktop market. Microsoft is a minor player everywhere else.
    Most software developed for Windows is not open source and most good open source that works on Windows came from *nix. As I said before, just try and see how far you get on Windows without being forced to buy something to develop for it. You're already in the hole when you have to buy the OS and a an upgraded system to develop for it and run the dev software. I haven't spent a dime on any tools I use and I'm running on 8 year old hardware developing ecommerce sites using FreeBSD and Linux.
     
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    Just simple question, it's easy to use and beautiful display :)
     
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    Yeah, that pretty much right, as MAC OSX is based on Unix, and because of quite a good no of open source software available web designers are shifting toward it.
     
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    Since I am a Linux guy, I like to share few things on why Mac is preferred. As said, MAC first of all is stable - ask a Mac user how many time he reinstalled the OS in the last year, but Windows users do it often, Mac OS since based on linux, uses Hardware to its full potential, it maybe sound or graphics, I challenge hear the same mp3 in XP and Linux, you will see the difference. Windows = showup + nonsense, Mac = simple + consistent.
     
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    as Apple is well-known on pruduct design!
    I switched to Linux , free,fast,lots of tools.
     
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    I must have put that poorly, I meant Windows is the target market for most computer developers because it's the dominant OS out there

    Well, software development and web development aren't quite the same thing. As a web developer you develop for the internet and not Windows. Sure, you'd have some programming involved there but the program runs on the server and not on the clients.
     
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    They are switching because Macs are obviously better! :p
     
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