Why Canadians dislike Americans....

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  1. anthonycea

    anthonycea Banned

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    #61
    Some folks are not in any flow and can't see the joke when I take shots at NC, I told him not to bring his wife on forum SE :confused: ;) :p
     
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    NewComputer Well-Known Member

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    #62
    No, I didn't, but thank you for the 0/10.....
     
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    #63
    A good article under this context proudtobecanadian.ca/threads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=2929
     
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    #64
    That may be one of the worst polls I have ever read, here's why:

    71% identify the United States as Canada's closest friend;

    -Derrrr... we share the border with them for a few thousand miles. Live on the same continent and have NO OTHER NEIGHBOURS!

    67% agree that anti-American statements hurt our ability to resolve disputes with the Americans;

    -HAHAHA, for real? Subsitute any other countries name here with America and you will see why I am still laughing. (Start with French, British etc...)

    73% believe opposing the policies of President Bush is not the same as being anti-American;
    -...

    Notwithstanding recent trade disputes and media attention, a full 60% of Canadians say they have positive feelings about the U.S., with another 25% citing "somewhat positive" feelings
    -Just hilarious, the trade dispute is probably the one thing that pisses off about 98% of Canadians. So obviously, taking that out will skew those numbers.

    I mean, cmon people. I don't think Canadians hate Americans at all. But a poll of this 'magnitude' does not speak for Canadians on a whole. Canada does not hate America, we just hate a lot of their "me first" stipulations, regulations and policies.

    Anyways, Ann Coulter is a bitch... ;)
     
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    #65
    Hell NC, what are you talking about, Americans hate Bush policy, even the soldiers fighting the war hate Bush.

    Rumsfeld was questioned by the National Guard soldier as to why they are put out to war with defective equipment?

    Do you think Bush really cares? He must maintain the oil fields at any cost for his buddies in Houston (Ken Lay and Enron and Exxon).

    Now he is bribing the government of Columbia to send troops to Iraq because no other country will support this silly and reckless war that he and dear old dad have bungled for over 15 years now.

    The American people will get wise to Cheney and Halliburton, if they did not steal the election a second time they would be looking at prosecution for their crimes right now.

    Good old Tom Ridge will save us and Bernie Keric, what a fricking joke Bush and his daddy are.

    That is why America is hated worldwide, four letters B U S H and his daddy.
     
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    #66
    Wrong Anthony ... sorry, not trying to start any BS but don't lie to yourself publicly.

    We just had elections, didn't we?
     
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    #67
    sitetutor: Don't confuse him anymore than he already is!

    :)
     
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  8. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #68
    They've always hated us. They hate what we stand for, they hate we are free, and they hate that we lead. It's not like people just one day woke up and said, damn, Bush is president, let's hate America. They always have. Nothing new.

    So what..

    As to Ann, she represents what America is about. Just like Mike Moore represents what America is about on the other side of the spectrum. This is what others hate. The fact that we all are FREE to have opinions, even though they differ. That we all can agree to disagree, that we all can be for or against anything. We can do all this without fear of being tortured, fear of being jailed, or out and out banned from society. This is what they hate. They hate the fact that a white rapper can make statements about gays, but then sing with, respect, and even hug old Elton. This is what they hate.

    Back to Ann, I assume you are referring to the one sided Canadian talk show (name escapes me, though I get it on Direct TV) that she was on recently? I would be willing to bet they had their best/biggest ratings ever after that show. It was quite an interesting ear full on both sides.

    So if Canadians think that Ann Coulter is the problem, and that is why Americans are hated, stop sending people like Pam, and Celine (spelling) down here. :)

    Come on, Americans have always been hated. I remember a trip I took to France in 82', they could not stand us. It was the same again in 95 (though quite a bit worse) and again in 97.

    It's freedom that they hate, not Americans. Let us remember that 99.9% of the "Americans" that they hate, came from one of their countries to begin with.

    We've done a hellava lot for other countries and continue to do so at our own expense for the good of all. If that is something to hate, or be hated for then so bet it.

    Anyway.. No hard feelings.. I'm not too fond of some countries myself :)
     
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    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    They do? Not all. The soilders do? None that I know. What they do hate is the media, and people who have not learned the lessons of Vietnam which is that you support your troops no matter what.

    Really? You do realize that the question was planted by the media right? Also please realize that Kerry (who wanted to be president) voted against body armor and armoring Hummers (not an armored vehicle btw).
    The previous admin also cut defense spending more than Carter.

    Oil fields? What are you talking about? Enron? ah, lest we forget, both sides of the political spectrum let that one go on. It all happened under the Clinton years btw.

    Bribing? What? 80 countries support the war in Iraq. Ok, so three that are always indecisive, and always stay out of the fray until the court of public opinion approves are not involved. Well, they were. They are not anymore cause they are not making any money. :)

    How did dear old dad bungle it? Because he did not go into Iraq? Look back into your history books. He did not, because we did not have a plan for it. He did not because our objective was clear. Liberate Kuwait and remove Saddam. That was it. And that is what we did. Had we gone further we would have nut cases bitching about why we did.

    Wise to what? Steal the election? Ok, so in order to "steal" something this would mean that it belonged to someone in the first place. How can you steal an election you did not win? Explain..

    What crimes are you talking about?

    I guess I did not get the punch line.

    Ah, now I am beginning to understand. It's all about President Bush. Presidents come and go. To say one or the other is responsible for hatred around the world is a pretty bold statment. Bush is only around for four more years. After that, we move onto the next president, and a whole new set of things to bitch about.

    I've really got better things to do than complain. Personally, I would rather have four more years of Bush than four more years of constant belly aching and whining.

    Peace.
     
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    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #70
    Keep in mind that the owner of Fox News is a Democrat, and endorsed and supported Kerry publically. Kinda hard to figure out when everyone seems to think Fox is a Republican network. I really never get that feeling. I guess if you have one network that has both sides of an issue, instead of one, and the other side happens to be Republican, I guess then I can see a point in this assertion. NOT.

    Anyway, the owner of Fox News is/was a Kerry supporter. I find that interesting.
     
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    Did that.. He supported Kerry in the 04 election :)

    Ok, so let me try and understand this. Bush senior leaves "terrorist" Saddam in power, bad.

    Bush Jr. removes "nice humanitarian" Saddam from power, bad.

    I'm not understanding the logic. But then again, the air is not quite as light down here.
     
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    #72
    Did what Mia?

    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Rupert+Murdoch+Republican&btnG=Google+Search

    Are you sure of what you state Mia?

    I think you need some air, check out the following.

    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=6561&page=4&pp=10

    :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
     
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    #73
    I confess I haven't read this thread and don't intend to -- I'm just responding to the title: "Why Canadians Dislike Americans".

    What makes you think they do, Anthony? What are you basing that conclusion on? I have lived here most of my life and while I do see a vocal anti-American segment they are far from the majority. We also have Neo-Nazis, Separatists, Communists, Anarchists, and Religious Fundamentalists in this country and at times they can get pretty vocal too but they don't reflect the views of the majority of Canadians either.

    Don't believe everything you read in the newspapers or see on TV. Hell, I'd recommend you don't believe ANYTHING you read in the newspapers or see on TV.
     
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    #74
    Minstrel, NC started this thread, not me, you should read the thread because there is some great stuff in it.

    Don't blame me, blame NC :p :D

    Can I trademark the above slogan?

    Minstrel, I did start the following thread on how Americans love everyone from Canada though :D

    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=5999&page=3&pp=10

    :cool:
     
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    Ahhh.... sorry, AC. As I said, I didn't read the thread -- just saw the title in the index with your name next to it and jumped to conclusions. Don't ever do that. :eek:
     
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    #76
    That's alright Minstrel, I have been blamed for most of the bad stuff that happens on DP for a long time, might as well pile on with the rest of the gang :D :mad: :confused:
     
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    #77
    I refuse to believe that Canadians dislike us. Everyone I've ever met from Canada was cool and when I brought up subjects like this, I was told "It's hip to talk shit about Americans in Canada but they don't mean it".

    I do believe that that is the case.

    I have been to Europe. In France and Germany I have felt the most ignorant resentment beyond my imagination. It is real, the hatred towards us. For what reason?

    I really don't give a shit. The careless attitude after 9/11 spoke louder than words.
    I hope they will never need us again for anything or I rather hope we won't have one soldier's life on the line for something they should be taking care of themselves.

    I have also been to Spain and people were awesome, no judgement based on where you are from.

    So basically there is hatred towards us but it depends on where you go.

    For some reason it bothers me when Canadians say stuff though. I mean, we have so much of the same culture, we sound alike it's like you're a part of the US (don't get on me now, I know you're your own country) and we have so many similar views on so many issues in the world.

    You also have to look at religion, not just oil.

    The arabic congress was asked what is the most important issue in the world and overwhelmingly they answered the Palestinian/Israeli issue.

    We are the most active supporters out there for Israel for different reasons. If you believe in the bible, you will see on numerous occasions that Christians are called to support the children of Israel. Israel happens to also be the only democracy in the Middle East. A pillar of freedom, a symbol like West Berlin was, a small part of East Germany under American protection.

    If you let freedom get away, someone will take it.
    There are many idiots here who make fun of the fact that "people hate us" and almost make it sound cool and interesting. There is nothing funny about it. The last thing we want to do is piss people off. But there are certain things that we stand for whihch should never be compromised.

    Ask yourself this: without us, where would this world be?
    We have made mistakes but don't foget the major clean up in Europe. Europe has had war after war for hundreds of years and all over bullshit. because the French think they are the best, the Germans think they are the best and the Brits couldn't stop colonizing to be the best.

    We had our share of disgraces as well but you better look at yourselves before making judgements. The funniest thing is those Europeans who have never even been here talking their nonsense.

    I love America and wouldn't want to live anywhere else. That is my prerogative. I also know that many non Americans would prefer living here than where they are.

    Ignorance is bliss. Life your life and make the best out of it, Bush is our president and will be for another 4 years. If you don't like it, don't dwell on it. Make your own difference in the world. I loved the Bill O'Reilly interview with Bono, even though I disagreed, he made some great points without slandering. We need more people like that who look at the world from different angles and present their views to the masses who don't like to think for themselves.

    and btw, you can have Celine back, but Pam can stay :D
     
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    #78
    How about we drop Pam off at your house ST, no one else wants her :D :p ;)

    I hate to burst your bubble on "the children of Israel", but the Israel you speak of is not the Israel of the bible, the Israel you speak of is a man made state that took the name of Ancient Israel and put it on a nation that men decided to create.

    The Israel of the bible consisted of 13 tribes and Judah was only one of those tribes and these folks in so-called Israel are those who fled Europe after WW2 (eastern European Jews descended from the tribe of Judah) to escape persecution in Europe.

    They proceeded with the support of the British who ruled Palestine at the time and the USA to kill the natives of that land just like we killed the Indians in America and took their land.

    So you have a bit to learn about so-called Christians who support so-called Israelites.

    If you believe Billy Graham and Pat Robertson you would hold your beliefs, but they know better and still preach lies.

    So don’t mix religion with the lust for money and military bases because that is all man made Israel is to us and to the Jewish people, that does not make it right.
     
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    Anthony, did you hack into my Xmas wishlist? :D
     
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    #80
    1st of all quit being a snake for editing your post and turning one sentence into 10.

    I am giving you the reason so many people support Bush and Israel, it is not about your opinion (especially yours) or mine.

    That is what is wrong with the world that everyone looks at things from his/her point of view only!
     
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