why arent i even being recognised in the rankings?

Discussion in 'General Marketing' started by confusedone, Nov 18, 2009.

  1. #1
    ok just checked with a couple of free ranking tools, both say i dont rank for my keywords. Dont really want to tell you my site for a few reasons, one being ive just emptied it in frustration to start again so it is all over the place!
    Ok did my research - more than 80 searches per day, less than 30,000 competing pages. Bought a domain with the words in. Added content. NOT a massive industry like say fitness or web design. Host by hostgator and they say i had about 50 visitors last month (only had domain for about 3 months but just getting into all this really).
    Used the free ranking tools and says im not even in the top 100 for all the search engines?? Did a few articles and linked them to my site from 4 article sites.
    Anyone fancy hazarding what im doing wrong? i mean i dont expect to rank high, but top 100??
    Oh yes, registered domain with google too!

    Many thanks for any help here,
    Alan
     
    confusedone, Nov 18, 2009 IP
  2. hans

    hans Well-Known Member

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    #2
    without site name / URL no precise help possible - only guesses
    you like guesses ?
     
    hans, Nov 18, 2009 IP
  3. William Tubold

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    #3
    It would be a good idea that you post the site url, to make a deeper research of it, and we can help!
     
    William Tubold, Nov 18, 2009 IP
  4. uberfly

    uberfly Member

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    Dude, you probably only have 4-5 links (maybe less). It can take time for your links to get indexed in Google. SEO is not an overnight marketing effort.

    Obtain some high quality links and you'll get a boost.

    -UF
     
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  5. MoneyMastery

    MoneyMastery Peon

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    few backlinks?
    bad url?
    authority pages above you?
    bad keyword density?

    Without seeing the site it's just guessing.
     
    MoneyMastery, Nov 18, 2009 IP
  6. Christian Little

    Christian Little Peon

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    Wow...I could barely read that...learn sentence and paragraph structure.

    Nowhere in your list of what have done did I see anything to do with backlinks. Search engines find your site through backlinks, if you don't have any to your site then you won't get them crawling/indexing your site. Furthermore, to get to rank anywhere you really need to build a lot of them. Once you've built your site, submit it to directories and do some article marketing. That alone can fetch you hundreds of backlinks and is very easy to do.

    As for the stats hostgator as sending you, what you need to understand there is that awstats show all file requests, not just page requests. This includes all activity that YOU do on your site. So if you are building pages and testing them in a browser, that could be 10 file requests right there from loading a single html file (the html file itself, css, javascript files, and each image generate a file request).

    What awStats will tell you is spider activity. Near the bottom of the report it shows you which spiders have hit your website, when you see Googlebot and Yahoo! Slurp show up there it means Google and Yahoo have found your website.

    When you rebuild your website, get Google Analytics setup (takes about 5 mins). That's way more accurate than awstats as it tracks page requests, not file requests. And you should also consider Google Webmaster Tools, which is a way for Google to tell you any problems it has with indexing/crawling your website. Both are free and very easy to setup (GA requires adding a few lines of Javascript to every page, Webmaster Tools requires adding a single meta tag to your homepage).
     
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  7. ChrisStigson

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    Hey! Great job on doing something. Unfortunately I think your keyword might be a little bit wrong, or you are not doing enough link building.

    Your main keyword should have more than 80 searches per month in my opinion. And less than 10,000 competing pages when you start out. That way you learn while you get traffic. Eventually it will start ranking, of course and then you gain some traffic.

    See the problem is that result #1 in Google will not even get 80 clicks per month, so that is less than 80 visitors per month. Your compeitiors might be too good at SEO too, you never know. Right now my top SEO'd site is ranked #9 for a keyword that gets 118,000 searches per month and I get about 5-8 visitors per day from that keyword. So you can see that 80 is just too little at position 100 :(

    I think if you did some marketing though, using some of the methods in my course or using some of the methods around the forum you'll start to see some nice traffic.

    And if you want my honest opinion. Try to install a wordpress blog on your site. It ranks way higher. You can rank very fast with a wordpress blog and the right plug-ins.

    - Chris
     
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  8. PaulSymonds

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    It takes time and a lot of patience and time is needed to build Pagerank. Some many people are trying to do well online now that it is getting forever more competitive. Start with article submissions, forums, blogging etc and best of luck. Just give it time.
     
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  9. amelen

    amelen Active Member

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    Give it some time.. it should pick you up soon..
     
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  10. whams

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    it wasnt hard to read

    and you arent going to see results overnight, it can take weeks for your backlinks to go through
     
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  11. confusedone

    confusedone Active Member

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    many thanks for your words of encouragement! And i am already using a wp blog via hostgator.

    I think i really shouldnt have posted this question as yes i have built few links and content could be better. And, yes i should have posted the domain, but the domain had such little competition, and initially i used market samurai (cant anymore as the trial has run out and the wife would kill me for spending another 100 pounds on 'me messing around on the computer'), and the was limited in the 3 word key string I used.

    All points taken on board. My plan is to add content and write approx 20 articles for 6 different submission services then see in about a month, and maybe get back here with some questions regarding this site. Any other suggestions?

    Many thanks for all your time, Alan
     
    confusedone, Nov 19, 2009 IP