Why are you muppets buying links from these rubbish sites?

Honestly !!

Out of about 50 replies askign for links 95% where from the usual

Get a dropped domain with the PR bar working or have a drop catch system and wait till the update to see what PR bar the domain comes up with..yeh I doubt ANY of you have that .. Lots of pals do..so I know the game.

But yeh all sites im offered are just a crock of shit that you know as soon as they have made some cash the site will just be left to become even more useless than it is now, ... PR5 on the tool bar 10links left pointing to it in yahoo etc

IS this the game now, ?? Dropped domain + WP blog and try and fool people into thinking its a real site etc and sell links

End of always the same LOL

James

 

I know what you mean...

I got offered a finance link on

http://www.zongapresidentialcampaigncambodia.com

and http://www.insertsomebullshitchinesenonsensehere.com

 

Always crazy shizzle !

I have good cash'o'la for real sites

James

 

I can't even stand asking for links anymore - you ask for high quality and get sh!t quality!!! I mean WTF! Can't any of these idiots read when I'm trying to get some links..

 

But the problem is when you offer a high quality link, they want to pay muppet prices for them : ))

 

Couldn't agree more, with you or the original poster.

A few suggestions.

I always recommend checking the whois to make sure a site you are buying links on is at least 3 months old or older. The older the better.

Always check Google backlinks. If a site doesnt' ahve Google backlinks using the 'link' command, then the PR is probably at risk.

It might seem like common sense, but if the domain name doesn't match the content, then it's probably a dropped domain.

Check the uniqueness of the content on the hompage using copyscape. If the majority of the content is not unique, then it's proabably a dropped domain.

When you do find high quality, very relevant site, don't be surprised if the owner is offended when you offer them a few bucks for a link per year.

 

<playingdevilsadvocate>

Because some dropped domains retain some toolbar PR after updates.
Because they are a lot cheaper to purchase than links from non-dropped domains.
Because a link is a link at the end of the day and a few cheap links are better than none.

</playingdevilsadvocate>

I specify non-dropped domains if I'm buying links but I still get loads of offers with dropped domains. I guess most people who are selling these links are after a fast buck.

 

Welcome to Digital Point forum

 

The one thing to keep in mind is that you can pick up domains that are marked for deletion before they actually drop. These types of domains are generally more reliable than actual dropped domains in regards to retaining their pagerank, but they still might not be what they seem to be.

I just thought it was worth mentioning that you need to be careful buying links on domains that look like they never dropped, because they still might have been snached up before the actual drop date.

I recommend checking a sites history at archive.org to make sure that the site is what is seems to be.

And yes, domains that are purchased before they drop generally will normally sell links cheaper than links on domains that were never at risk to drop, but the risk is higher. Still, if you pay per month, then it might still be worth it as you can cancel your subscription when you see it's PR or SERPS falter.

 

By dropped domains I meant any domain that has been bought "secondhand" and made into something else entirely. So I was including, somewhat erroneously, those sites that hadn't actually been dropped. Thanks for making the distinction, which I think is quite important.

People with these types of domains seem to be selling quite a lot of links and I do think they pass some value even though this method of buying backlinks may be regarded as being suboptimal.

 

As long as they still have pagerank, they still pass linkjuice.

It's important to keep an eye on them, though. Monitoring Google backlinks is a good way to do this. If a site suddenly loses all of it's google backlinks, it's a good indication that a PR drop is not far behind.

 

Given how much cheaper these links from dropped domains are it's no wonder people buy them. As you said, they still pass linkjuice.

The choice is: pick up a PR6 link for $150 for a year from a dropped domain or pick one up from a genuine PR6 for the same price on a monthly basis. Yes there are risks but the price differential is huge. Perhaps people who buy these cheaper links are not muppets after all.

 

It's hard to argue with that.

 

most of the link seller here seem to be dropped domain link sellers. i recently posted a WTB thread and i specifically mentioed that i dont want to buy any dropped domain links. i even mentioned that i will leave red rep for anyone who send me dropped domain link offer but guess what? 99% of the offers i got were from dropped domains. i did end up finding some legt sites where i bought links form but this is a total waste of time having to go throu all these crap to find a few good ones

 

Toolbar PR is not accurate though. Dropped domains can still show PR, it doesn't mean they are passing much link juice.

Generally speaking buying links on dropped domains is a big waste of money.

If you have a quality site you will find buyers willing to pay more. However, if you are offering a link on another paid to post blog which is of low quality, that could be the problem.

And risk that the PR will drop on the next update, which is likely if they have just setup a blog to sell links. Oh crap!

 

Oh yah, one problem with quality sites is that IF you are purchasing link for a new site, the webmaster might not accept it too (i definitely won't!), so at such times, it does make more sense to buy from muppet sites

 

i completely hear where you are coming from. There are too many blogs thrown together from dropped domains. Funniest are those that for example say finance links and the domain is some crap like ssghdu.com. I mean is that what you call your finance site?

I have posted WTB threads a couple of times and although i know i am buying from such sites, i have only bought on sites that have internal pages with pagerank too. It just filters out buying total rubbish. But its hard to find non-blog sites these days. It used to be easier b4.

 

well I don't see a problem because the only ones who fall for this are people who don't do their research. If you research it properly you'll easily be able to detect the fraudsters from the legitimate link sellers. Takes like 1 minute or just 30 seconds if use some automated tools. (check out greasemonkey + user scripts)

also look at reps and post count, the people pulling these scams are the ones with low post and rep scores. Worse all are the increase in ppl selling links on sites they don't own. There's an increase in scammers who are alleging to own sites they don't own and are trying to sell links or the site themselves. Lots of ppl on dp in the bst section have been scammed - once again it all comes down to doing your research (caveat emptor)

 

This is sounding kind of familiar...

Remember when people used to buy dropped domains and turn them into directories. Now, it's buy dropped domains and turn them into blogs.

 

yeah. Pretty much have to sift through the shit to find tiny nuggets of gold. This shouldn't be your only source of linkbuilding.