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Why are some sites so slow to load????

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by dalani, Jul 8, 2006.

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    Why are some sites so slow to load in my browser. There are some sites, like digital point which load instantly in my browser. Then there are sites which almost never load fully into my browser. These are professionally developed sites for big online outfits: eg. barnesnoble, amazon and lulu.com to name a few. These for some reason do not load at all when I visit with Firefox running on my linux. Other sites work fine. What is the explaination for this????
     
    dalani, Jul 8, 2006 IP
  2. yaffer

    yaffer Active Member

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    #2
    this site will answer all of your questions about site loading speed
     
    yaffer, Jul 8, 2006 IP
  3. MELLA

    MELLA Peon

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    The explanation for this is because the PR's are so high on these sites and the traffic volume is so large sometimes it messes up the CO OP and mysql reacts very badly to this. I blame the HTML and CSS. The VPN, DNS and Ajax may also be the cause of the slowness. Delete your cookies and all the porn that's cluttering up your computer and try again.
     
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  4. digitalpoint

    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    Actually, it just comes down to how awesome the owner of the site in question is. The faster the site, the more awesome they are.
     
    digitalpoint, Jul 9, 2006 IP
  5. MELLA

    MELLA Peon

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    Ah, so that's why DP loads so damn slow for me.
     
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    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    #6
    It must be so fast for you that it just SEEMS slow.
     
    digitalpoint, Jul 9, 2006 IP
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    mdvaldosta Peon

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    I wonder what the excuse was before the server upgrade :D
     
    mdvaldosta, Jul 9, 2006 IP
  8. saadahmed007

    saadahmed007 Admínistratör

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    How much aweosme google is they are tooo fast.
     
    saadahmed007, Jul 9, 2006 IP
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    I have noticed the same thing. Sometimes my sites never work at all, and sometimes other sites are as fast as possible. I noticed that restarting your internet connection sometimes works to fix it, but then again sometimes I have to get a whole different IP.
     
    sllik, Jul 9, 2006 IP
  10. nevetS

    nevetS Evolving Dragon

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    Sometimes it's a factor of optomization. Many sites just completely ignore the fact that more people in the US use dialup than high speed connections - it seems the bigger the corporation, the more they just want a big slow difficult to navigate site. It's easy to wow a boardroom full of decision makers with a flash site. It's much more difficult to wow those same people with a site that will load in less than 10 seconds with a dialup connection.

    Another factor is that sometimes javascript that works fine in IE will either be dirt slow or never work in firefox/mozilla. And I've seen a few occasions that sites push out gigantic javascripts with no cache control headers so if you don't stick around for 40 seconds on a given page, you might never see it load completely. Who knows how long that stuff takes on dialup.

    And then there's the question of whether or not their web servers are capable of handling the traffic that they are seeing. Some companies will buy beefed up load balanced servers, but not spend time configuring them correctly, or even put them behind routers or load balancers that simply are not designed to meet the traffic demands that they are seeing. I see that problem all the time with intranet applications that are deployed in enterprises. My favorite instance happened just recently - 4 gigs of ram on the server, and they were limiting the java server engine to 32 megs of ram - even though the application they deployed required a minimum setting of 256mbs. It was surprising it even ran at all and the only reason we ever found out why was because it started crashing intermittently. Updating the setting increased the speed of the app by 300% and made it much more stable.

    So you never know, it could be stupid network people, stupid web designers, stupid corporate monkeys, stupid consultants, or higher than expected traffic - and perhapes a combination of all three. Fixing problems in corporate america is also very problematic - especially in management heavy organizations where it's difficult to get the masses to see the tree in the forest, let alone talk them into allowing you to repair a simple technical problem.

    At one particular customer's site, a simple text change on their public web site - nothing major, just a typo - requires 21 days lead time and that customer will expend upwards of 150 man hours on the problem between communications, change reviews, audits, and the general discussion of how the typo was published in the first place. It's very true that a small business can move mountains in the time that a large business can move a pebble.
     
    nevetS, Jul 9, 2006 IP
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    WWPinoy Member

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    I agree, DP always seems to freeze up on me at Transferring data from pagead2.googlesyndication.com Then after it sits frozen for a while, even though the header loads I get the dreaded:

    but yet I can go to pages like Yahoo.com and AOL at the time while DP is loading and there are no problems.

    It gets really annoying when trying to send a PM to someone. I now have to compose every PM in Notepad so that I do not loose the data when the site "resets"

    I get an average latency to the forums of about 1,500 ms, but only 150 ms to Yahoo :(
     
    WWPinoy, Apr 9, 2008 IP
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    Websites made with scripting languages (PHP) are slower than those made by compiled languages (ASP.NET), but it can be hosting's fault also, or user's internet connection.
     
    Yankee85, Apr 19, 2008 IP
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    hillord Well-Known Member

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    speed will compromise if the site u are surfing is from elsewhere(other parts of the world)
     
    hillord, Apr 19, 2008 IP
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    (even though this thread was re-opened from 2 yrs ago...).
    It comes down to:
    1. Client's connection
    2. Server status (then - whether its dedicated/managed or shared environment)
    3. Coding (whether its static, dynamic etc...)
    4. Other scripts added to the site (external coding)
     
    soEvo, Apr 19, 2008 IP
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    I was always curious about page loads and what affected them. Just last week I was in a conference room with a T1 connection looking over our website that is hosted on a dedicated server. There were about 5 of us looking and navigating to the same pages at the same time but 2 of the users, the site wouldn't load right for them. My first thought would be that it's their computer but we were all using brand new mac book pros that the company had bought a week earlier. Perhaps just too many people sucking up the wireless connection or something:cool:
     
    snuffmigruff, Mar 24, 2009 IP
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    sometimes it could be your firewall. u could try to set your browser to get certain sites(but u have to be specific) to be exempt from your firewall block capabilities. but use caution because that may pave the way for some viruses or spyware but other that that, just be mindful
     
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    mmerlinn Prominent Member

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    Umm, do I read that correctly?

    If I do, then the owner of a site with only ONE word on the WHOLE site is the MOST AWESOME owner there is because he has the FASTEST site???

    NO COTTON-PICKING WAY THAT YOUR STATEMENT CAN BE CORRECT!!!

    Fastest is NOT equal to BEST or MOST AWESOME by any stretch of the imagination!!!

    -
     
    mmerlinn, May 3, 2009 IP
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    why has this been dredged up from 2006? :rolleyes:

    ps WTF mmerlinn? He was obviously making a joke...
     
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    Although It has a lot to do with the script, and maybe even the size and quanity of images and flash, I find most often it is a result of a lousy hosting company. Most often you get what you pay for.
     
    jasonvan, May 4, 2009 IP
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    Too little bandwidth, too heavy a page. Too many resons.
     
    Going Green, Jun 14, 2009 IP