Why are directories still being created, when anything post DMOZ is inadequate?

Discussion in 'Directories' started by Recipes-DrinkMe, Nov 4, 2008.

  1. #1
    As the topic states, any directory we see from today to the end of my lifetime will be nothing more than a mock DMOZ db, as all of their listings subsequently appear in EVERYONE Else's initial/permanent listings.
    Not to mention, they are in 'contract' with google... so the odds/ranks are more or less NOT in your (future directory creators) favor...
    Thirdly, at BEST your page MAY breach the lower end of the top 100k sites...only to later FALL off...
    so... Point?
     
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  2. Obelia

    Obelia Notable Member

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    Because Dmoz is not comprehensive enough in certain topics, and not restrictive enough in others. It's made by human editors, and therefore it's bound to have a few flaws and omissions. And of course there's also the matter of taste and personal opinion.

    However, there isn't much point in trying to recreate Dmoz unless you think you can recruit at least 50 000 or so volunteer editors as well. But there's always a use for well-targeted and maintained niche directories, and that's what people are building more of now.
     
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    mikey1090 Moderator Staff

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    #3
    DMOZ is a great directory but has it's flaws. People will always try compete, others will just be in it for the fast buck.
     
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    syted Notable Member

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    Because people can run directories that have the time and inclination to review and index submissions. Dmoz is not concerned about submissions because the editors can add content more effectively without them.
     
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    spin Well-Known Member

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    We have more directories because their is a demand for them.
     
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  6. Recipes-DrinkMe

    Recipes-DrinkMe Peon

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    the former statements I can 'somewhat' relate to/understand, but here, we are creating them because we would LIKE there to be more demand. In actuality a 'truly' elite directory (truncating all mediocre directories and maximize resources + staff + time) would prove sufficient for all submissions and one listing in it would surely guarantee a PR (and in some cases, traffic ) that would take months of independent SEO
     
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    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    Directories are the best way for sites to obtain backlinks, improve SERPs and in some cases, even get some traffic from them. Hence I believe that directories will never go away and they will always be an important feature of the internet.
     
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  8. Recipes-DrinkMe

    Recipes-DrinkMe Peon

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    Of course that's true, but all the ones POST-DMOZ aren't as effective as people may perceive...
     
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    #9
    Until there is at least some demand - new directories will be created.
    People will keep submitting to directories no matter what (even if these links are totally ignored by Google).
     
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    There is definitely a need for niche directories. General directories will not fair as well as a niche directory would. In that sense you are correct and people should move towards niches rather than generalized ones.

    However, you can not assume that DMOZ will provide the necessary services to both site admins and visitors adequately. There are a ton of great websites which are missing from DMOZ simply because the category admins are not doing their best.

    Successful directories also should not simply be listing providers but also provide useful content. These can be reviews, unique articles, news, etc.
     
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    syted Notable Member

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    Why? I see this a lot and some directories do have useful content, but I'd say if a directory has a good category structure populated with good quality sites which have meaningful titles and descriptions, then that's all that is required.
     
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    pipes Prominent Member

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    Haven't looked but i doubt much of anything listed in dmoz is listed in my directories, lol

    Im used to the odds/ranks not being in my favour :)

    Whats the point in life after your post, jesus you have brought it all home to me, i feel so low now :D

    Are http://dofollowdir.com/ and http://www.sunrisedirectory.com/ an exception for you? i noticed them in your blogroll, just wondered if they have something that makes them stand apart?
     
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    I believe on demand and other person hope toward directories as offpage seo for their website. Even sometime people argue about this but nowaday a lot of good directories appeared and provide us with a good contents and quality site.
     
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    Recipes-DrinkMe Peon

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    #14
    I enjoyed your spin on the matter.
    but in regards to dofollow & sunrise, my experimental forte into 'third-world' directory submissions supplied the basis for my current theory: Any DIR post-DMOZis inadequate.
     
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    Recipes-DrinkMe Peon

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    With that, can anyone show me a website that is popular by association in any 'lesser-known' directories ;) ?
     
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    Yeah? Appeared where? Certainly not in the search engines :D
     
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    pipes Prominent Member

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    Inadequate for? :)
     
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    Shellerz Active Member

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    Because no one can get in Dmoz these days :-P
     
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    #19
    I'm gathering some information to rank the top 15 general directories and let me tell you this:

    DMOZ is not included

    Why because it is no longer what it used to be and it will never be. It is time for other directories to take the torch.
     
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    #20
    directories are used for back links
    niche directories still have their command
     
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