whoo hoo! new Google sandbox filter (similar to the old -asdf trick)

I am not seeing this at all Flyguy I rank #11 for a normal search and #23 for the "tool" search

 

Even when you are at the top. Link building never hurts. As long as there is relavency there should be no penalty.

 

Now if you can only convince Google of that!

Just for information, I have no "link building strategy" on that site (with the exception of internal links), and I have never exchanged a link, bought a link or paid for directory inclusion on that site. This means that I have no control whatever over the type of sites which link to me and many of them are not relevant at all, but the site still ranks OK. Maybe thats why I don't quite buy into the relevancy theory.

 

If that is coming trhu my income is instant tripled when I come out of the filter

 

ACK, I rank so awesome in that... damn google!

 

Wow! I think this does show something. I have sites that would show in top 5 and some that won't. These sites used to be in top 5 then fell out about a year ago with one of googles updates.


Seems like some sort of filter or penalty is at work.

Thanks for sharing.

 

Just to re-itterate.

The tool does not lift the 'sandbox' effect per se.
I have removed all references to 'sandbox' to reduce potential confusion.

It only lifts one or more, unknown, undescribed filters by forcing G into an exact match mode.

The value, IMO, is a comparison of current real results to the un-filtered results with regard to your site's position and your competitors position and to potentially provide a little insight as to why the differences exist.

Personally, I have captured the top hundred results for my KWs as reference for when/if any sites pop into the regular results.
Finally, use it while you can, G may plug the hole at any time.

 

Is there any way to show just the sandboxed results? Without the non sandboxed ones? It's probably a stupid question, but I would be very interested to know if it could be done.

It's a great tool. I spent all day comparing sites on it yesterday. I didn't get any work done at all, mind you!

 

Interesting, for me, if I put my keywords in tons of times (20 or so), I get the same result as in the URL that started this thread. Is it possible that if you put your keywords in 20 times, it weights them more and goes by keyword density more than backlinks, since you have put the phrase in more than once?

Make any sense?

 

man that would be great....geez

 

I think your tool also filters out many other factors that the "new algo" Google uses given in an article in another post. My site is over 3 years old - and ranks in the 20s without the filter - but 3rd and 4th with your filter on.

 

well it's kinda nice to know that maybe my hard work will eventually pay off.

 

I've noticed also if you use McDar's tool that you can watch a site make its way out of the sandbox for search terms.

 

I don't understand how/why this works. It seems to put your search term in several times plus ignored words (to a.. etc). However, if you put your search term in many times, without the ignored words, the results are the same.

For instance, watch the results change for the term : php programming

Single entry :
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=php+programming&btnG=Google+Search

Multiple entries :
http://www.google.com/search?num=10...g+php+programming+php+programming&btnG=Search

This is just a small test case, but in the first search you get php.net, the second you get an o'reilly site. The keyword density for the oreilly site is a bit higher.

I wonder if it just adds weight to the keywords if you type them in multiple times? If you search for "google" of course you get google.com, if you search for "google google google google google google google google google", you get everything but google.com.

Does anyone have any guesses as to why this is?

 

it doesn't work for my targeted keywords, SERPS identical...

 

It uses "ignored words" - but Google doesn't actually ignore those words - you can use them for ranking purposes.

 

I,Brian,

I am confused as to how you can get the same results by not using ignored words, just repeating your keywords.

 

does this still work?

 

Seems to drastically change the results for me, but like I said above, repetition of terms seems to do the same thing, from the few searches I tried.

 

neat tool

Makes you feel good anyway