Who said crime doesn't pay, Just ask Israel

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by newbie191, Jun 10, 2010.

  1. Ibn Juferi

    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    #21
    Seems that you are just making up stories again.

    [video=youtube;re3d0hiM4EQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=re3d0hiM4EQ[/video]

    I found "this" on YouTube.

    As for your constant red herring, ad hominem attacks and argument to ridicule that you constantly pepper throughout your post, I think this is an obvious sign that you are trying to run away from the main thrust of the argument (i.e. concerning Chris Hedges). Same goes for the other person constantly making his Nazi-fascist hate speeches against Islam (and I believe its called red herring / poisoning the well), I think the authorities in Singapore should be duly informed that there's a hate-instigator in their midst.

    Imagine if I were to make a similar statement against Jews, Hindus or Buddhists...doubtless I would be called a "terrorist" and immediately censored, simply because I am a Muslim. But why is this self-proclaimed atheist getting away with his hate speech?
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #22
    Awinsjclarke, why am I not surprised at all to see your post does not even address the argument and wraps up with an accusation of logical fallacy. I'll give you credit for consistency. Did you click on any of the Youtube links in the link I provided? Most had been pulled due to claims of copyright infringement. That comment, in case you didn't get it, was entirely tangential to the point of the post.

    The point was your propaganda constantly tries to make an appeal to authority by posting people you feel Americans look to as authorities (David Duke LOL!) making anti-Israeli statements. I posted a debate with your so-called authority getting his ass handed to him by another so-called authority. Personally, I don't need either of these guys to recognize a bunch of uneducated Mohammad worshiping, genocidal, terrorist wanna-bes trying their hand at propaganda. Its like watching a two year old trying to forge a Van Gogh.
     
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    #23
    Maybe because what he is saying based on reality and your nothing but hate.

    :rolleyes:

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  4. Ibn Juferi

    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    #24
    I am not making any "argument", I am stating my observations of your arguments against newbie191's points. All you did was to bring up Hamas, David Duke, and God knows what else. You did not address a single point which he raised. In the fact the main thrust of his argument was, and I quote:

    "I want to know what an ordinary American feels when he sees Israeli Army killing innocent Palestinian women children, even babies with the American made bombs."

    Now what does this have got to do with your "uneducated Mohammad worshiping" slur (which is factually incorrect, by the way, since Muslims do not worship the Prophet, peace be upon him), Hamas or David Duke? If this is not an ad hominem and a red herring, I do not know what is!


    I am not interested in getting into another round of circular reasoning with you. From the continuous display of your behaviour, despite my pointing out the various logical fallacies you commit along the way, I personally do not believe that you are here to reason and learn. You are only here to inflame, make rude and xenophobic remarks about other DP members, spread a lot of lies about Islam and do nothing more than trolling. I wonder, since you have all the time in the world to do these things, what really is your day job?

    All of that pent-up hatred you reserve for 1.5 billion Muslims must really affect your psychological state in some way. And by the way, it gives me the giggles each time you address me by including my dad's name "SJ Clarke" into the mix.
     
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    #25
    You still didn't get it.
    This is not about hatred for 1.5 billion Muslims, this is about those who wants to
    kill every Jew and everybody who are aligning themselves with truth and if your
    1.5 billion Muslims are on the same path with these morons, then don't be so
    surprised people hate them too.

    :rolleyes:

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  6. Ibn Juferi

    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    #26
    I wasn't addressing you, and besides I am not interested in entertaining your cheap polemics and wry attempt at poisoning the well.
     
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    #27
    Why don't you try and see how long you last

    :rolleyes:

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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #28
    I can't be blamed for your low reading comprehension skills. For instance, you missed the obvious logical fallacy in his post, while replying once again with bogus accusations of logical fallacies in my post. I suppose the upside of your ignorance is you always come away from these discussions feeling victorious. Ignorance is bliss they say.

    Since you re quote it, let me point out the other problems with his statement, other than the Appeal to Authority.

    1) Americans don't see Israeli's army killing innocent Palestinian women and children, so his premise is false.
    2) There are numerous videos where Palestinians brag about being skilled martyrs. One went so far as to say Palestinians embrace death. If Palestinians want to use women and children for human shields, hamburger meat, concrete mix, or road topping, and these women and children comply, how can the be called innocent? To call them innocent would, by definition, make them involuntary human shields. What would that make the Palestinians who use them as such?



    Can there be any question that the violence created against those who draw his image is a strong indication that those creating the violence worship the man? If he is just a man to you, you should by a roll of my toilet paper and wipe your ass with him(I'm thinking of charging $10 a roll for the privilege).


    Can it be helped if you find my twisted and dark sense of humor offensive? I find the promotion of hatred and ignorance offensive, but I don't call you a troll.

    Professional slacker. I'm trying to get hip to the whole "Democratic Agenda" thing.

    I've had Muslim friends for a very long time(All of them Iranian). Nice people. Thankfully, none of them share your views.

    I address you by your DP ID. I'm going to take a break from my usual bad taste and not make any comments about the use of your fathers name to address you.
     
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