Tonight an eloborate documentary will be shown that has been conducted for a couple of years i believe by a Dutch Kennedy expert and from which a welknown journalist/investigator from The Netherlands has joined in his efforts to ''reveal'' the how and what behind the killing of JFK. This journalist/investigator is a very serious investigator that has solved various serious cases and even freed some people that where falsly accused. I am quite curious to see the never before film footage that has been shown in The Netherlands and the interview with the man who claims he fired the fatal shots. Of course you would think the man claiming this is just some media horney attention seeker but Peter R de Vries isn't just someone you can take a piss at. He told in a interview this socalled killer has some intriging information that not everyone can devise and could have known. This documentary is supposed to show how the results of the investigation that has been conducted by the Warren Commission doesn't hold with these new findings and that Oswald wasn't the man that killed JFK. As i said before i'm quite curious to see what the content of this documentary is and what is supposed to be so revealing. Since this journalist is very good in what he does this could be very interesting. Update coming up...
I just finished watching the documentary and it was interesting for me to see since i have seen things that i didn't knew of before but that's also due to the fact i haven't have much interest in this. On the end it showed a URL of a website of the Dutch businessman that has been doing research for 10 years on this subject. I just tried to check it out but at this point a ton of people are checking it out so the server is presumably overloaded since it's unreachable at this time. Check it later on...www.jfkmurdersolved.com One thing for me is certain that the Warren Commission is totally unreliable and false in it's conclusions and a complete farce. U.S. goverment is also questionable in this whole affair at this moment in time.
Everything the Warren Commission wrote has been reviewed thousands of times and no reliable information has been found to contravene it. However, that does not in any way prevent people from making things up.
I was SHOCKED, SHOCKED I tell you, that this guy was selling something on that website. A fool (or conspiracy nut) and his money are soon parted
Check it out. On the back of the DVD that this Dutch mook is hawking, the guy in the photo (supposedly the "real shooter") is obviously giving the Dutch guy the finger. I swear! P.S. $30 bucks for a documentary DVD? Are you sh*tting me?
I thought I would reword a section of the DVD cover to make it more accurate: Instead of: Convinced by the veracity of the Files, the author Win Dankbaar.... Really means: Trapped by the lure of money, the author Win Dankbaar....
Some things that the Warren Commission claims and just isn't true or possible in my point of view at this time: 1: The single bullet theory - a bullet causing 7 wounds and hitting human bone 2 times following a trajectory that is just impossible and coming out unscaved. The bullet that has been identified and produced by the Warren Commission didn't had any damage at the cone and the sides whatso ever. That is pure bullshit what they produced and is technically and physicly impossible. Some damage had to be present. 2: Warren Commission claims that 3 shots where fired. Fact is that 4 shots where fired from which actual proof exists in the form of recorded communications of a motor vehicle cop that had a open connection with a operator and the conversation was recorded. On this tape 4 shots where clearly recognizable and heard. So no 3 tree shots 3: Warren Commission claims 3 casings where found at the alledged crime scene in the book depository from which in fact there where only 2 empty casings found by police investigators. from which a CS picture was shown. Two days later they delivered the third empty casing. Incompetence or trying to make things ad up? 4: Warren Commission claiming he was shot in the back of the head. When it's clearly visible on the Zapruder tape that President Kennedy is shot from the side. It's in plain sight for everyone to see!! And yet Will you say this: Everything the Warren Commission wrote has been reviewed thousands of times and no reliable information has been found to contravene it. Why would you say this since it's so obvious the man was shot from the side? You believe the Commission when saying he was shot in the back of the head? I would say this specific issue has already have successfully contravened the Warren Commission. If not show me otherwise please? Although this is a impossible task since the Zapruder movie clearly shows the Warren Commission is wrong. 5: The socalled shots that the Warren Commission claims only have been made namely three shots where by their claims made in 5.6 seconds and by Oswald only. The best snipers of the FBI could not match this performance when put in practice. Although the Warren Commission claims that Oswald did indeed fire these shots in 5.6 seconds and on his own from which he had to reload twice and make two hits from which even a oak three was partially obstructing the line of fire. And he was only a average sniper? Nice claims by the warren Commission but even the best snipers in the U.S. could not match this uber sniper ability. Even a former FBI agent doesn't believe that Oswald did it on his own and even has doubts if he did it at all. The man is Zack Shelton for anyone that wants to know. He provided the picture of the alledged crime scene where investigators found the two casings. And not three. The third was provided later on. Why is certain information locked down untill 2039? Why? Suspicious behaviour if one would supposedly want to solve the murder! I am very curious how someone can dispute the points i have brought forward and especially the Zapruder movie. It would be nice to see the attempts being made to claim that JFK was shot in the back. And NOT from the side as is clearly visible on the Zapruder Tape. Will since it's your view that the Warren Commission has not been confronted with reliable information could you please show me the proof that JFK was indeed shot in the back of the head? and not from the side.
There is absolutely no way that I am going to devote the precious moments that make up my life to going through all of this again.
Wise decision since it's undeniable that JFK was shot from the side and thereby proving the Warren Commission claims are false regarding the head shot.
Discovery channel had a great hour special on this assassination. They had a demonstration of some guy - using the same type of weapon. He fired off 3 shots in about 5 seconds (a little less actually). Loaded, aimed and fired 3 times in 5 seconds. Rather impressive, and doable. Oswald was not an "average marksman" check out his shooting grades. He was a very good marksman, capable of hitting targets at extreme distances.
Don't start what you don't want to finish or even get involved in when people start actually discussing. This is to be anticipated. This has nothing to do with troll behaviour. I am not really ''sensitive'' about this topic but i do find it interesting and me as someone starting to raise interest in this topic and providing details that in my opinion are very valid can not be considdered a troll. Calling or claiming someone is to be trolling when it's obvious he/she is not by Wikipedia definition a troll themself. So you decide Will... I'm curious to see what logic someone can put forward regarding the head shot. @Lorien1973 I wish i could have seen this as well. This could be questionable then but what is your opinion about the headshot? To me it's clearly and undeniably evident that JFK was shot from the side and not from the back. Why does the Warren Commission persistently claim he was shot in the back?
I think you cannot make the estimation that it was a side shot based upon some crappy grainy video tape. If that's the sole support for a side shot, then it has real problems. Autopsy showed a shot from the back. Entry and exit wounds support shots from the back, not the side. The wounds to the governor (or whoever else got hit in the car) support that too. It was a straight line, from Kennedy to that dude. from an upward back angle. You should really watch that discovery special. What was cool about it, was the hour before it, they showed the conspiracy side of it. then, in the second hour, they showed how the conspiracy theories don't wash. I think they were 2 different specials shown on the anniversary of it or something. Few months ago.
Wel actually i have to disagree with you on that. That ''grainy'' video clearly shows the movement of impact from the side. Also the exit and entry wounds where at first established as being a result from an impact from the side with the first examination/autopsie. This of course would contradict the Warren Commission findings and a second autopsie was being ordered and made that ''proved'' he was shot from the back. Have you seen that picture of JFK laying down on the autopsie table? The back of his head was extremely torned up. A large part was missing. This clearly indicates an exit wound and not an entry wound as supposedly by the Warren Commission. It's clearly visible o nthe Zapruder tape JFK was hit from the side of the head and the tape being grainy is not relevant IMO since it's quality is good enough to see he moves to the left on impact. Just like if you would get a smack a right hook on your yaw or temple...this would of course cause you to move to the left as well. Also dozens of eye witnesses ran up to the grass hill with the fense where they saw smoke rising up at the exact moment of the head shot was fired. I really am curious about this discovery documentary, maybe i can dig up something from it. But regarding the headshot nobody can provide proof it was indeed a shot from the back. Understandable of course since it happens right in front of you and is unmistakenly a shot from the side.
Lorien: I believe that I have seen the same show that you are talking about -- and it was excellent. Are you talking about the one where they finally solve the issue with the motorcycle radios? Unfortunately, I cannot remember the title of the video! It was probably this one: Unsolved History: JFK - Beyond the Magic Bullet DVD But it might have been this one: Unsolved History: JFK - Conspiracy DVD Unfortunately, no amount of evidence will prevent the conspiracy kooks from preying on weak minds by producing and selling books and videos full of distortions of the truth.
Yeah, thats it. They used computer simulation to show the impact of each bullet and that motorcyle deal. They also showed footage of that director (what's his name? who did the JFK movie) who said that lots of stuff in the film was using artistic license to make a point. Including a faulty reconstruction of JFK's car, which made the bullet appear "magical", when in reality, the inside construction of that car is different entirely and the bullet actually passes thru a straight line from kennedy to the other guy, it doesn't make any magical left turns in mid-air or anything like that.