Who has shrinkage? The Deficit Does

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by GTech, Oct 9, 2007.

  1. guerilla

    guerilla Notable Member

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    #21
    It makes my point.
     
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    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #22
    Which would be? Seriously. Expand on this. Your quote doesn't really do anything. Your comment was:

    You followed up with:

    Unless you agree that the gunmaker is responsible if someone uses the gun to shoot someone; you can't be overly serious here.

    Sure, be miffed that Reagan/Bush didn't do something about Saddam after he gassed the Kurds, but that's a different issue.
     
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  3. guerilla

    guerilla Notable Member

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    #23
    Did I say the gunmaker was responsible?

    I enjoy arguing with you, and you've been coming strong and true, but I have to go to sleep, so I will leave you with my best thoughts. Vote Ron Paul.
     
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  4. GRIM

    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #24
    My only issue is that the die hard republicans used the same stance to disprove the democrats, so it only works when it's on the parties side :confused:

    So who is the democrat pretending to be a republican here might I ask?
     
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  5. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #25
    Shouldn't the real issue be, that there is good news for America? It's not about democrats or republicans. It's about America.

    I'm certainly not trying to gloat on republicans or even GWB for that matter. Good news for America shouldn't be a partisan issue. We're all in this together, right?
     
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    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #26
    If it was good news, guess if you want to see good news you will.
    If you want to see the real news you'll look at numbers that I don't know, an actual business would use, numbers that show everything and not just what the government wants you to see.
     
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  7. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #27
    I suppose I could see good news as bad news.

    I could also look at reports from legitimate sources, or look at stock market reports that pertain to actual businesses.

    I always thought it was about the good of America. Apparently we can only do that when a democrat is in office.
     
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    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #28
    Nope not at all, I'd rather look at it the same way acrossed the board.
    Only when a democrat is in office hey? Who is backing a democrat?

    So you'd rather just look at anything that shows good news, when proof is shown that the news isnt' so good just disreguard as usual? If you don't acknowledge it, then it can't hurt you?

    :rolleyes:
     
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    #29
    I've decided not be worried about the IOUs and Social Security solvency any more. I recently realized why we are importing so many illegal aliens. The reason is that they will have children and grandchildren who will be paying the interest on the T-bills and paying my social security while I spend my golden years at my time share in Cabo San Lucas. It's all good but we need more deficit spending to keep the supply of T-bills up. :D
     
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  10. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #30
    Did I miss a post that has some source proof that deficit the isn't shrinking?

    I've gotta start paying closer attention. Could you source that for me? I'd like to see the bad news.
     
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  11. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #31
    Hmm, nope, I didn't miss any source. There was a doom and gloom oped by Dr. No, but that's not credible source proof.

    I'll go out and see if I can find the mysterious bad news report that's supposedly here, but not.
     
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    #32
    The posts that showed the hidden numbers perhaps? The same way the repubs attacked the dems of clintons supposed deficit lows, now the coin has flipped and each side has taken totally different sides.

    So the IOU's and such, no those don't exist simply because they were not written into the report. ;) Great logic.
     
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  13. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #33
    Which side have you taken?

    So that is a no, the mythical source didn't exist? Just made up criteria. Don't worry, I couldn't find a source that said the deficit wasn't shrinking either.
     
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    #34
    Ron Paul serves on the Committee on Financial Services, Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigation.

    I think that when he pens an op-ed about government finances, he has the resources to back up his #s.

    It's as credible as the source in the first post.
     
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    d16man Well-Known Member

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    #35
    If that is your best thought, then you really are in some trouble....:D :D
     
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    #36
    So you simply deflected gtech's post that other countries supplied material into "america gave them this" just for giggles? Guerilla, you are silly sometimes.
     
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    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #37
    I unlike you do not take sides, I am my own man, I am a free thinker, I like the entire story ;)

    The Social Security numbers are made up, really now? They were not included but they are?

    This is the same argument that was used during the Clinton days, when the republicans 'me included' attacked Clinton. If I were to simply jump up and down from these numbers I'd be a hypocrite, sorry not going to do that.

    The deficit going down, wow that's great news. Now how about going after some of the things that really are going to hit us, such as Social Security not fully being included? There is more to it then just the numbers posted, anyone knows that who has ever debated the budget in any shape or form.

    So yet again math showing the truth such as posted in the following post
    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=4773070&postcount=2

    doesn't work now because Bush was in office, yet this is the same form of math the republicans went to during the Clinton days to show the cough 'true' deficit. Maybe you didn't, most however did ;)

    There are government numbers and there are accurate numbers, you want to trust the government so much be my guest, I thought part of the point of being a good citizen was to question the government ;)
     
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    SBR Richard Peon

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    #38
    well, in every story, a character needs to die :(
     
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  19. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #39
    Too funny. "Free thinker" I always liked that one. I see you've failed again to back up your claims with a source. Choosing instead, to link to someone's biased opinion that offers no source. Gotta love that "free thinking!"

    Opinions are not facts. You are more than welcome to source material. Until then, it's simply a reflection of your opinion and disappointment. Just because you, or "Linksales" says it, does not make it fact.

    You used to be better than that. Work with me here ;)
     
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  20. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #40
    I'm surprised GRIM didn't catch that. He is, after all, a free thinker and doesn't take sides.
     
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