The terrorist from the oil rich countries have money and resources to hurt us. Terrorists in islamic countries in Africa have neither so they are killing in their own home for now. Take out the big guns first.
Just warms my heart to know that you have the plan, send it to Bush please, it can't be any worse than his
Kerry had a plan this election cycle. In fact, he said so about 30 times in 1 debate. If kerry is such a patriot and so brilliant as to be able to solve every problem anyone presented him with, why doesn't he turn over his plan(s) to the president so that the world can bask in what might have been?
"The muslim extremists (which most muslims are) " I think that statement really shows you ignorance and you bigotary, there are millions and millions of peaceful muslims all over the world the vote was close to 50 to 50 showing a bunch of red areas where bush led by 3-5 points does not show total domination The average person is stupid, all the you have to do is walk to the local mall to know that. Bush won narrowly, using swift boat ads and direct mail that said stuff like "liberals will ban the bible". Pussy democrats didn't start the smear ads till the end. Why? I have no idea?
come on, dems have been smearing for 4 years now. some of the ads put out by th 527's have been the worst ads ever. In FL here, kerry had ads that said bush was against equal pay for women and a few other laughable things that I was amazed a legitimate candidate was even saying. Very true. the extremists are less than 1% of the total muslim population; but as with most extremists, their actions tend to define the majority and since the moderate muslims (for the most part) do not speak out and come against the extremists, its easy for people to make the connection - unfortunately.
I know the 527 put out smear ads too but nothing on the scale of the swiftboats, then fox news was running stories playing the whole ad nation wide once or twice a day for awhile I live in florida too, I never saw against equal pay for woman ad, I some pretty crazy betty castor ads. "Betty castor head of terrorist cell at some college blah blah" its pretty funny in sort of cynical way They had that kerry ad about bush and saudis running in the last week or so, why didn't they run that sooner, whats bush going do deny any involvement with the suadis. When bush ran for govern of texas he ran smear ads, and won, against john mcain he did the same thing, and now this race. I don't really see how people didn't see it coming and come up with some response.
Look at what other nations think of Bush in the following link. Americans are the only one's with their heads in the sand, the rest of the world is not with us. http://217.160.163.211/globalvote2004/ That means America is not successful and can not win on the world stage.
the opinions of other countries fail to interest me. they dont have the same perspective, nor do they know all of the issues at play in an election. Never be successful on the world stage? Other countries envy us. That is the problem - we are too successful and prosperous, they are mad that we run the global economy, that we are the lone super power anymore. Too many people believe in multi-polarity like it was in the Cold War. Which country donates the most to Aids in Africa? We do. Which country donates the most food/medicine to 3rd world countries? We do. Which country donates money/relief to countries who get natural disasters or wars? We do. When there is a disaster in the world; no one goes running to France to fix it. they come to us and say help. And when we go looking out for our best interests; they get mad at us? Let them get mad. When the europeans can fix things in their own backyard, then I'll take them seriously. 2 things. compare the swift boats to the other 527's anti bush. The swift boats were at least believable (and raised some interesting issues about kerry's record - not sure if i believe them or care all but they were interesting at least -- kerry put his vietman experience on display as the primary reason to vote for him so attacking it became legitimate) because they came from people who had served with kerry in the past, who questioned his actions when he got back etc. Then look at the other ones...the crazy things they put on TV and on radio completely drowned out any message by kerry and that campaign. The anti bush 527's did far more damage to kerry than they did to bush. and kerry legitimized the swift boats by questioning them - if the kerry had laughed it off or not responded, they wouldn't have been nearly as big an issue as they were. By talking about them, kerry put vietnam square in the media and brought a lot of attention to his post war activities, to his record since etc etc etc. Dont blame fox for that - kerry brought it down on himself. 1 group with about 15 million dollars was more effective than groups with 100's of millions of dollars against bush. Who woulda thunk it? I get tired of people blaming fox news for everything. About 2 million people watch fox on a given night, yet about 39% of voters had heard and thought the swift boats had a credible campaign. Fox's fault? hardly. Kerry legitimized it; kept it in the news for a long time; and it completely dragged down his campaign. Kerry's campaign was a joke until the first debate - he was falling in the polls consistently across the country. Had Bush performed well in that debate, the election would have been over at that point. Kerry wouldnt have stood a chance..but Bush - being Bush (he is painful to listen to sometimes) - messed it up and made it tighter than it needed to be.
With a post like that I can understand why the citizens of the world hate Americans, you need to wake up a bit. If you think that America can make it in this world alone you have a lot to learn.
Is it just me or does that sound arrogant and introverted? That's the beauty of perspective, there's always another angle. So, enlighten me to all the issues at play, I think I missed something It may once have been "You will bow down before me" but times change and empires have their time. The Roman Empire has been and gone, the British Empire is no more... Which country promotes the greatest "Chrisitan" morals? Which country has the biggest pornographic industry? Which country has is the biggest consumer of pornography? Which country has the most gun crime, obese people, pumps out the most pollution, consumes the highest proportion of resources....? There's something a bit awry here, Lorien1973, can you see it? Need an outside perspective? Mixed bag of insults there. Is it because France gives enough already and the needy have to actually *ask* the richest nation to dip its hands in its deep pockets to get something? As for taking Europe seriously, funny that there were negotiations to trade oil in "Euros" just before Bush & Co. stomped in and put paid to that (http://www.phonono.com/NotaboutOILORIRAQ.html - read the section on "Oil Dollars") then feel free to add me to your ignore list until you think I can contribute something worthwhile to your cause. Sorry to get all European on you there, Johann dude. You have a nice day Your friend, whatever, Lever
Please Lever, don't try to teach the Bush supporters anything, they are like Jethro, they ain't got but a 6th grade education. Don't be so hard on them, an education would be like being blinded by the light, after all, the only thing they watch are Bush campaign commercials during breaks and also within the Fox New Broadcast itself Don't waste time in an attempt to help them understand, they know not what they do Lever....
LOL You know me, Anthony, just trying to keep a balance here - speaking softly whilst carrying big stick rather than speaking biggly whilst carrying soft stick Sure is mighty purtty 'round here
Will the debate ever end??? Regardles of who you support or what you think of Bush, Kerry, or anyone else, this is what we've got for the next 4 years. All the debating, unnecessary name calling and childishness won't change that. From my sig most can probably tell that I have ties to Russia. I received a note from one of my Russian friends yesterday. Here's part of it: "I was glad to know that Americans reelected Bush. I also "voted" for him in my heart I think Americans should be very grateful to their president for they didn't have a single act of terrorism in America since 9/11. I wish I could say the same.Think of Russia where securiy services are not that resolute and perfect compared to American ones :-(" Just one unsolicited comment from one person but it's something to think about?
Russia Funny If the US is so bad, why don’t you move to Russia? I guess the US would have a lot more terrorism if they where bordering some of the countries they are in war with. So let's hope Bush won't invade Canada any time soon Seriously, Bush isn't really that bad. Even if you don't agree with the policies you should feel happy that you live in a mostly safe country. I hope you will have some reforms making your kind of democracy work more like a true democracy, but I think you will be in good hands for the next four years. Atleast I am (and many other that make a noticable extra income from the high oil prices) very pleased that you will countinue with your current administration.
I don't think we'll invade Canada any time soon. At least I hope not. Actually I think oil prices dropped about 4% right after he was re-elected? I doubt it was because of that though. Some are saying it's because of Sadat's health situation? Who knows? It would be nice if the world were a perfect and peaceful place but I don't think we'll see that until nature takes over or we wipe ourselves out and another species is dominent. But then they'll probably have battles between themselves too. Just like the dinosaurs did. Maybe we'll get lucky and evolution will head towards H.G. Wells "The Time Machine" and we'll wind up like the Eloi except without the Morlocks?
Anwar Sadat was Shot about 20 years ago, are you sure of your statements, seems that you Bush supporters really are lost somewhat. Sadat was the President of Egypt, killed a long time ago. Arafat is the one you are thinking of. Read Levers Link and you will find out that we can not win the Oil War without destroying the world. We have no friends other than those that Bush has bribed, Tony Blair is on his way out in the UK. When he is gone, the US will have no support on the world stage, maybe we can send all of you who voted for Bush to fight the Oil Wars. Don Rumsfeld sure could use some more fighters, he is running short of believers in a hurry.
Hey..It's early here in Tulsa and I've already been at the office for 3 1/2 hours and it's only 7:30. Plus I need more coffee. How about Arafat? Leaving to get some stronger coffee
Canada even let's France bully them around. There will be no need for anybody to invade Canada. They just concede when there is a chance for military conflict.
Hi Bing, I feel you are being unfair to both Canada and France. You will find the worlds best soliders in Legion Etrangere, they are the best because nobody trains harder, does more real fighting, and because the French generals doesn't care if they live or die. Canadian soldiers have been fighting bravely in many wars, Norwegians will never forget "Little Norway" and the help and assistance during WWII.