Just look back on the last four years of Cheney and Bush, then you will know your future. Not very good, it will be like living in the old Soviet Union by the time the Republicans get done with America. Got money to buy Gas? Wait until you see the crime and riots break out because of the jobs and economic situation.
The population of Norway is about 4.5 million. The population of New York City alone is 8 million. The State of New York has a population of over 19 Million. Now doesn't it make sense that each of these states makes their own voting laws? Hmmm... why yes it does!
You can't use the size of the poulation as an argument for having a lower quality democracy. European countries like Germany and France are both capable of running elections without using the US system, also coutries like India has a more real democracy then the USA (and India has a population close to one billion). I hope you will have some major reforms to your voting system, election laws to make your system more like a real democracy.
You are correct, the system is subject to great manipulation, it is corrupt against the poor and those who can not drive. We need to allow online voting over secure servers so folks can vote from home or an approved online voting center. The Federal law must be changed, since it is a national election, the same Federal law should apply to the whole nation taking state laws out of the picture. The electoral voting process is corrupt and should be banned.
Point out one recent elected official who was elected wrongly. If you are referencing the electoral vote, it's whole purpose is to act as a buffer from other states possible indiscretions. It is nearing the end of it's usefullness however and could be done away with in a few elections time. You keep saying "this" and "that" is a better democracy but you don't give any details. You give no backing to any of the points you try to assert.
furthermore; the electoral system is in place because this is a representative democracy. To argue that it should be removed, you have to say that every vote should go directly to the people. If you think that getting 100% of the EV;s for 51% of the vote is wrong, then you also have to say that having a senator or a representative in office for getting 51% of the vote is also wrong - its the same thing.
Face it, the system is corrupt and broke, when an election can be determined by partisan politics like the 2000 election where the candidates brother is Governor of a Republican controlled state and swings the election to his own family. If that ain't broke than Cheech and Chong never smoked no dope folks. Get Real, America is in trouble unless THE PEOPLE wake up and DEMAND change.
You can, have and will say all this without formal examples that have any significant weight. However, the people have spoken this time. If there wasn't a war currently going on, GWB would have been out just like his father. America is not known to voluntarily change presidents during wartime.
Bling, if you need more proof than provided in my prior post then you are the one that has no real understanding. I will say your word selection and posting style have improved a bit, but the theme of your posts I still question.
You know, I just re-visited this thread for the first time since the election, and I wonder how many wish they could reverse those votes for kerry. It makes me sad to know there there are so many lost souls out there. Tisk, tisk, tisk. Anthony, where are you?
Face it Mopacfan, if Daddy and Brother Jeb did not steal the first Election your hero would not have ever been in office in the first place. We would not have gas prices at record levels that will take the economy into depression. We would not be in a war that will never end and that we can not win. We would still have support from the nations of the world. The American people would not have been defrauded like we have for the past 4 years and like we will be for the next 4 years. Got anything more to add about reversing votes or do you agree with the first stolen election along with the rest of the corruption of the Bush/Cheney Administration?
Hey....Out here in oil land once Kerry conceeded the gas prices dropped to $1.72 a gallon for regular unleaded and my stocks went up. Thanks Uncle George !
Stolen? If that were the case, then don't you think the liberals would have won this election? Check out how little this country really believes in the democratic BS:
See how many friends Bush has outside of this nation, not many, ask our British friends what they think of him. 70% plus in Europe do not support him, it is only dumb Americans that fall for the propaganda from the Oil criminals. Don't let John Kerry take your guns, Bush will give you more guns, want to go to Iraq and fight for oil money. Why don't you send your kids to be targets dude?
Personally, I think that is the problem... If the money that went on the election campaigns had been spent on getting the homeless off the streets in America, I bet there would be a lot less homeless on the streets. You are pumped full of political propaganda and lies (Regardless as to what candidate you are watching). I have to say, from thee outside world that is where I live, the USA currently looks like one of the least democratic and free nations in the world. Either candidate stood for things that I simply do not believe in. I could not have voted for either. But if I had to have chosen, I would have voted for Kerry. Anthony, no wonder Kerry didn't win, he had no firm values. But I wish on the stars, that he had been consistent. Because then maybe the whole world wouldn't be faced with having to live under a man, that gives the impression that all he cares about is money... I'm not saying that everyone else outside of the US hates Bush. But a fairly substantial proportion of the globe dislikes the man. Do you honestly think that your country is safer with him in power??? Think about it. He is one of the most disliked men in the world (And you can't object to that), he has had *questionable* relationships with the people that previously caused such terrible damage to your country, and he *seems* to be leading a war just so that one of his best buddies can make a bit more cash. While putting you at risk of an attack that could not be stopped - Terrorists are unstoppable. They believe in what they believe in because they think that it allows them entrance into heaven. How can guns beat a man who is not afraid of life??? I'm sorry. But I don't think that being able to have guns in your household will prevent you facing terrible harm from an army (who is not afraid to die) that is being fought by a man that profits from war. Just my $0.02
That's a good point. Churchill wasn't very popular either, but he got the job done and ended up being a national hero. The US, in this election, just told the rest of the world where to get off! If it wasn't for US, the french would be speaking German right now, and so would the rest of Europe. How quickly they forget. To the international audience here, I'm sorry if you're offended by these remarks, but the US along with the UK, did win the last world war. The muslim extremists (which most muslims are) want to kill us and anyone else anywhere in the world that does not think, look or act as they do. We're not going to try to appease them, we're going to root them out and eliminate them. Apeasement as kerry would have it would just make the enemy that much stronger.
Your nuts man, Europe and Russia and China will not support the US in this war, in the end they all want us out. China is sending an unlimited supply or weapons into the war zone. So will Russia, they do not want us there, how much longer do you think that Europe will support us. They are laughing at our go it alone war. The British will not last much longer as their government has no support at home any longer for the Bush/Blair friendship. Keep dreaming man, the US will pull out of Iraq before you know it. No way we will stay there, men and weapons will continue to pour into that country until Kingdom come. What you do not realize Mopacfan, is that those folks are not only fighting for what they call their religion and land, but for the Trillions of dollars of oil that is under the ground. You do not see the USA in Africa fighting for freedom now do you? There are millions of Africans dying everyday from war and famine, are we there? Why are we not? Because they have no oil, the enemy is not blowing up oil pipelines everyday for nothing in Iraq. The fight is over oil, not freedom, never has been, never will be, so you can take your silly "freedom BS" and stick it man. The American people will not support this war much longer, Bush is running out of the "thousand points of light" and soldiers that believe in his Oil War.