Really? The way that you're able to so loosely draw inferences from one's statements, I'd thought you'd be more into playing doctor. You could also swear that there's 10 guys who meet in a room once a week to determine the lives of every human on the planet. You should probably get out of the business of swearing stuff. Naaaaaaaaaaaaaatttteee!!!!!!!!!! ahem I mean Carol Anneeeeeeee!!!!!! Come out of the closet!!!!!111
LOL What? And who would that 'leader' be? I post on this board a handful of times every few weeks, I wasn't aware I had some kind of supreme commander who dictated my actions. Are you referring to someone I may have agreed with before? Let me make this perfectly clear: I think you are out of your mind. That is a personal opinion. I also think you are overly aggressive, and eager to start a confrontation. None of this has anything to do with anyone else. If you didn't say such unbelievably crazy things all the time, I probably wouldn't disagree with you so readily. Get over it.
I just observed the only times I've caught you posting here you make boot lick attempts by vilifying myself. Why don't you mind your own business and simply observe? Let me make this perfectly clear, I don't care what you think. If I wanted your opinion, I'd be asking for it. Of course you think I'm the aggressor, and our conversation certainly gives that appearance. If you participated here more than just "a handful of times every few weeks", you'd know the situation. But you obviously don't so don't bother jumping on the conclusion trampoline. I'm sure if LogicFlux was truly a benevolent guy, the regulars here would rescue him from this "confrontation". They know who he is, I know who he is. He likes to make snide remarks here and there, ruin potentially great threads, and he even worked his venom into a good friend (he deleted his venomous remarks when he finally realized it reveals his character) and amazing contributor to the forum, causing him to leave because he thought of others before himself, unlike Logic. Never is he consistent in the way he approaches a subject, sometimes he'll take it seriously and put effort into a post, other times he'll belittle others with his slick jokes. This is how he avoids responsibility for his beliefs, he can always say it was just a joke. Notice how Logic doesn't really have any core beliefs? He just attacks others. He's good at giving the illusion that he represents everyone else with his confident, know-it-all persona he takes on. He even fools some members, like yourself. Confrontation is his worst nightmare, he thrives on giving sucker punches and jabs through various threads, to various members who have usually done nothing to him in the past! He's thrilled by chaos and confusion so that he can come in and give his "commonsensical" approach to all matters. He takes advantage of others' opinions so he can slap on the mainstream view to things and make it seem new and original. I guess that's how he got his 3 blobs that he's so proud of. You can keep disagreeing with me, and I can keep making a fool of you. Whatever works for you.
Now the truth is coming out!! This is why you're following me around, destroying threads and replying to my innocent posts with such aggression. Because you think I'm responsible for guerilla not posting. Firegirl tried this crap too. All I did was point out what guerilla did. I never made anything up about him. Hell I never even reported him or red repped him. In fact I don't think he was ever banned and is free to post so I don't know why the hell I'm being blamed for it. Perhaps he was hoping that by hiding away and pretending to take the high ground that his supporters would come out in support of him. Instead of being mad at me for pointing out that he attacked people personally and viciously instead of debating them, why don't you get mad at him for engaging in said behaviors? It's because it's not a principled stance by you. It is a stance based on an alliance. An alliance which is bound by dislike for America, an allegiance to the racist, Ron Paul, and fueled by irrational conspiracy theories, such as those propagated by Alex Jones. Don't you think it's wrong to call another member's family member's murderers just because they served in the US military? Did I put those words in his mouth or did I make it up? This is one of the most egregious examples of guerilla's behavior, but it's not inconsistent with the body of his behavior on this forum. In fact it is quite indicative of that body. You've got to be joking? If he thought of others before himself then were the thousands of posts he made earlier, many of them attacking others, just a mistake, was he suffering from dissociative identity disorder or something which made him post things that were really out of character? If that's the case then maybe he got on meds and that's why he stopped posting. Notice how you just make stuff up out of thin air without any evidence to support it? Did you learn that from Alex Jones? I have several core beliefs. One of them is that this is a great country. I'll fight you every step of the way on that. You can call Abraham Lincoln a racist in order to try to knock down any lofty ideals one may have about our history, call Obama a piece of shit, or pretend guerilla, the anti-american propagandist is some sort of hero and I'll fight you ever step of the way. If you try to spread conspiracy theories, which at the backbone lie charges that the US is a tyrannical, oppressive regime, that our freedom is a farce and that we only want to kill and enslave, or we are the strong-arm of such an organization that wants to do such things, then I'll fight you on that too. Dude. Move past the Randy Quaid thing. It was a joke. You called me an asshat and smart ass and probably a few other things and I laughed. In fact it was quite refreshing to see that there was a human behind the internet connection with human qualities such as a sense of humor. It's a sign that you haven't been completely assimilated by the Alex Jones borg. Mainstream? Because I like Obama? What else is mainstream about my views, that I don't subscribe to retarded conspiracy theories? Some things are mainstream for a reason, because they make sense. I was thinking of hiring a publicist, but if this is your way of making a fool of me, then I'll just save some cash and keep posting pics of Randy Quaid, since they really seem to set you off and fuel your campaign to "make me look foolish". Jesus Nate. You have written my whole manifesto and your manifesto on your stance towards me. Do you believe that I'm an agent of the NWO as well who was sent here to subtly encourage cognitive dissonance in an attempt to keep the posts of members in a chaotic state? Do you believe I've been assigned to you to discredit your views on our plans for world domination? Am I the NWO order version of Clarence from it's a wonderful life. Do you think every time a truther is proved wrong one of us gets our wings?
I will say what I like to you because this is a public forum, and the views you express are up for review. Again, this is just the way it is. Just because other people also think your crazy, it isn't boot licking. There tend to be multiple people in any number of threads who think you are full of it, and since you flock to so many political topics, and I occasionally post in this board, it makes sense that a small portion of what I comment about will be about how I don't agree with you. You are paranoid, that much is clear. I think I have openly argued with you twice, and yet I apparently 'lick boots' in order to cozy up members, none of which I actually know or speak to. As for not caring about my opinion, your reaction when I disagree with you is proof enough that you do.
Nate is obsessed with me(I can tell he's reading my old posts in other sections of the site because my referrer logs say so, unless there are other people from the same small town outside pittsburgh visiting the same url on a site with little traffic). He thinks because he has idols on this forum that everyone else does. I don't know why he thinks I'm a leader on here. I'm not and I don't want to be. I'm not like his idol who has a clear, "consistent" ideology with which to recruit others. My views don't fit any normal political prototype, whether it's a left prototype, a right one or an anti-american one like his idol's. I'm sure I piss people off in here from all political persuasions. You could probably divide the members in this forum into two groups, those who like Obama and those who support the war in Iraq. If you only used those two criteria you'd probably find that they are almost mutually exclusive, yet I support both Obama and the war in Iraq. Not a great strategy to win buddies, is it? In short, no one is licking my boots. It's silly to suggest so. And if I thought they were I'd probably tell them to get a life and think for themselves. But I guess when you're obsessed with someone it's hard to imagine that everyone else isn't also. Is it a surprise that nate saw your post as a conspiracy to align with me against him? PS If you want to ignore Nate there's a cool way to do it in my sig link. I suggest using the Randy Quaid photo.
It was already discussed and ended, with G apologizing for his actions, but it wasn't over for you apparently. The venom-spewing serpent in you just wanted to shut him up in any way you could. I would expect nothing less from you, attacking the man in the argument rather than the argument itself. He was a racist, are you trying to debate that? How dare I set the record straight on some of these false Lincolnian beliefs. I know it's instinctual to defend the beliefs obtained from your government education. You used the word anti-american, so he's instantly invalidated? I think everyone's been desensitized to this tactic by now, try something else to discredit one's character you disagree with. Of course you'll fight me on it, not my argument. That's what you're known for, injecting venom into ideological opponents. LOL oh you do huh? Let's hear your core beliefs, what sort of philosophy do you approach politics with? Gonna put me on ignore or am I gonna have to drag your ass through a few more pages?
So far I've been attacked by three Ron Paul supporters for ONE of my posts in which I stated something I believed about the beliefs of another poster. First Grumpy Paul accused me of making a debate about a person rather than the issue. Which is funny since my comment was relatively benign, not getting so much into making accusations about the person's alleged shortcomings, but simply stating what I thought they believed, that they would like to see the US destroyed. Grumpy Paul was jumping 3 or 4 people's shit around the same time in various different threads, including mine. He decided to selectively become outraged at this one post I made in which I stated King Paul(guerilla) would like to see the US be dissolved. Very selective outrage considering that this sort of thing goes on all the time in this forum and most of these statements are relatively benign(they are usually not personal attacks or go to character or are deeply insulting, save for one member) except for those that come from mainly one user. The user that was being defended by selectively latching onto one of my posts not only made it common practice to make the debate about the person and their views rather than strictly about the issue at hand, but they did it in some of the most demeaning and insulting ways possible. But you'll never hear Grumpy Paul, Scary Paul or Sister Paul bring this up. They'll only become outraged selectively when it suits their political agenda, which in this case means defending King Paul who leads the cause against the terrorism of the US. So I'll post some quotes from King Paul and see if Scary Paul has any outrage for these posts, to see how honest his outrage is towards me. guerilla calling me stupid. Well, just saying I'm not smart. guerilla really didn't/doesn't like me because I love the US. There is nothing more vile to him than someone who loves this country. http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=8535706&postcount=101 Notice after insulting me he says he will miss me. He alluded a few times around the same time that he would not be posting much in the future. guerilla getting personal with earlpearl. Intertwining his attacks on his character with the debate at hand. The following 6 personal attacks, which added nothing substantive to the debate, were all in the same post. http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=8147384&postcount=157 Another attack against earlpearl calling him paranoid and neurotic in another thread: http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=8067971&postcount=65 Same post as above. Same post. Here is King Paul calling people nazi-like nutjobs and suggesting they are ignorant or ashamed liars, instead of actually debating about the issue. http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=7030745&postcount=62 Another post about the person and not the topic. http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=7019820&postcount=24 This is a statement towards me, again saying that I'm not smart. It He also left me rep around the same time saying something to the same effect of, "you're not that smart". http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=8497751&postcount=61 Again, debating about the person's character/morals instead of the topic. http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=8493687&postcount=45 Same post as above, where he calls another forum member's family member a murderer of civilians. More debating the person's character by using banal insults. http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=8494135&postcount=48 Same thread. As usual he's trying to point out flaws in my character and motives of my posts. Doing exactly what you seem to be so outraged with me about. I guess if I don't want to be a target of your outrage I need erect an upside down US flag and start howling about how the US is a murderous, tyrannical and evil empire. http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=8496125&postcount=57 It's funny. This sounds quite a lot like the accusations you tried to level against me of not having principles. Didn't you mention something about lack of originality as well? More of the same from the same thread. Personal attacks, debating the person, their character, their motives, alleged shortcomings, etc, instead of the issue at hand. guerilla continuing on his "you're not smart" campaign against me. http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=8497432&postcount=59 But guerilla isn't a simpleton who simply attacks the person and not the issue, he's manipulative. I caught him calling me smart before he edited the post to call me "not smart". I think this is one of the ways he managed to gain so many followers on this forum as yourself is by strategically providing positive and negative reinforcement. There used to be a member here, Grumpy Paul, that is now banned that would get patted on the back so often it was humorous, especially because said member didn't seem to realize what was going on. http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=8497751&postcount=61 Another post by guerilla attacking the person instead of the issue and also again calling their ancestors murderers of innocents. Here is guerilla casually dismissing getting a warning for a "personal something or other". That "something or other" happened to be attacking or members' families. http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=8505120&postcount=67 This is in response to northpointaiki's response to guerilla calling his brother a murderer. http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=8510909&postcount=60 So natie, are you going to apply your outrage at "attacking the man in the argument rather than the argument itself" evenly or are you just going to use a fake argument to gain sympathy for fellow Paulites? Or should I call them Paulistinians since it bears resemblence to the name of another group that also hates the US and would like to see it destroyed? It would be my pleasure. I have thousands of quotes that are just a submit button away. PS NPT, if you're reading this I'm sorry for bringing that stuff up again. The reason I deleted my posts in that thread a few months ago and apologized was out of respect to you. I was trying to be magnanimous and diffuse the situation, if you will, so I wouldn't keep talking on a subject that brings you pain. But the followers of Paul(Scary Paul this time) keep attacking me so I have to defend myself.
Nate, I'd love to talk more but I got a warning so we will have to part ways for now. /unsubscribes from thread