Which tags or elements do search engines ignore?

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  1. pinkpanther

    pinkpanther Peon

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    Thats the problem, dont think my hobby(kittycat) page will ever rank well.... i know.. so pessimistic(did i even spell that right?!?) Its only a hobby site so its not that important for it to be ranked well, but at least I want it to bee seen, listed, searched. =)
     
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    #22
    I agree with Bernard, but for slightly different reasons. I just don't think keyword density has any importance. What is important is that you use your prime keywords at least 2 or 3 time on the page, as well as in the title, and headings and alt tags etc. But whether or not they constitute 7% or 12% density is simply a non starter.

    Don't junk your page up and do all sorts of artifical things. Say what you want to say, and say it using your prime keywords and variations of these.

    The thing that really drives traffic is links with proper anchor text words so concentrated on these and don't get obsessed with keyword density. I have site ranking top ten for a variety of different subject, some of them very competitive, and I've never ever calculated or looked at keyword density.
     
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    #23
    No not that I am obsessed with keyword density, I am just doing what are recommended and hopefully see an improvement in search results.

    Anchor text ...hmmm.. time to redo my homepage...

    Thanks for the advices!!
     
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    pwaring Well-Known Member

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    #24
    Both sites still fail for me with the same error, in Firefox and Opera on Linux (though if it's a server error it shouldn't make any difference which browser I use). There's also a noticeable delay between requesting the site and getting any response.
     
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    #25
    That is really weird, I dont see any error, I did something to the site, pwaring please try again. And if anyone else can also test the kitty cat and vacation site and let me know if you get any error. Thanks for the help, really appreciate it.
     
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    Bernard Well-Known Member

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    #26
    They work fine for me.
     
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    #27
    Thanks Bernard. The error pwaring got was a server error, I really cant think of a reason why a server error will occur for one browser and not others.
     
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    pwaring Well-Known Member

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    #28
    I'm still getting a long delay and then a runtime error on both My Kitty Cat and Vacation. I get the same response and error message whether I use Firefox, lynx or Opera so I doubt that it's a browser problem. I get the same error even if I make a direct connection to the site via telnet and issue the GET / HTTP/1.1 commands manually. I don't get the error from two of my shell accounts though, but I don't see how me coming from a different IP address should make any difference unless your site tries to make a connection to clients or something or you have blocked certain IP ranges.
     
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    #29
    But that's the point. Whoever recommended it doesn't know what they are talking about and are just wasting your time.
     
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    #30
    You seem to be using .NET and the server will try to detect browser type automatically, generating different HTML output for different browsers. Check your IIS logs for browser type of those requests that failed and try to reproduce it on your end - this way you may be able to figure out what's wrong with your app.

    J.D.
     
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    #31
    I am just scratching my head.

    pwaring, you got any error when you go to the showcase site? There is no ip blocking on the all of those sites. If ip blocking is the issue, you will get a different error, not a server error. If possible, can I ask you to email me a screenshot of the error for each site? Thanks a bunch!!
     
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    #32
    As I mentioned in the post 88557, your app depends on client side JS. Your websites seem to be very simple. Take my advice - switch to plain ASP and write the HTML yourself. You will save yourself much time.

    J.D.
     
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    #33
    But client side script will not cause server error.
     
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    #34
    MS-generated code uses JS to submit their internal data. If this data isn't what your app expects, it will trigger a server-side error.

    J.D.
     
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    #35
    http://www.bebemau.com/ and http://www.vacationinkauai.net/ work fine
    for me.

    If you don't want to put the text in an image put it in the middle of
    the page.On my sites the text at the top and bottom of the page
    or the text which loads first and last in some layouts seems to carry
    more wieght with the search engines then text in the middle of the page.
    And image is the best way not to decrease your page relavency.


    :D
     
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    #36
    holy cow, my pages look absolutely dreadful in firefox... cant they all just stick with one standard for displaying webpages?!?!?

    there are quite a few entries on my log showing firefox, different ips and such, does not look like anyone has problem, they are able to navigate the site. i myself just downloaded firefox and tried my pages, aside from ugly outputs, i really dont see anything wrong...
     
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    #37
    That's because your pages are probably designed for IE. It's not difficult to get sites to work in Firefox and Opera because they support most of the standards, IE on the other hand seems to have loads of problems (most of my sites are valid CSS/HTML and look fine in every single browser, except IE - which means either it's been extremely strict or it's not following the standards).

    As for your sites, I still get runtime errors and I just get a blank page when I go to the Hawaii one.
     
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    #38
    Yup, have been fixing my css. IE is known to be the one not following the standards.... sigh.... But IE is still the one dominating the market although the percentage is dropping... sigh....sigh....

    So you are not getting error on the kittycat one? If not too much to ask, would you send me a screenshot of the error. Thanks in advance.
     
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