Which one method u prefer to build website?

i just want to survey how webmaster at DP build their website, are they prefer to use CMS like drupal , joomla , WP or handcoded using html or dreamweaver and what is the advantage using handcoded then CMS?

for me i more prefer CMS because easy to add content , and handle all the data but sometimes its difficult to look plugins/module/extension when i want to embeded any ads content in like adsense and its more easy to use handcoded/dreamweaver when i want to blend content with adsense

 

I hand code everything, front end html/css/javascript, middle tier PHP and back end MySQL. I also hand code a custom CMS for the client. I am not averse to a good blog oriented CMS like Drupal, but they're usually overkill. All I want is for the client to be able to load content in a manner that does not break the site or introduce security hazards. The fewer options he has, the better; the principle of least privilege. Give him an easy way to do the things he needs to do, and make it very difficult to do anything else. If he will need a new capability, I'll code it for him.

No way do I let a trash coder like Dreamweaver into the act.

cheers,

gary

 

what tools are you using to increase coding productivity if you coding all by hand?

 

I use CMS more often nowadays.Specially Wordpress.
It's easier to update,add content,maintain!

 

I prefer Dreamweaver. It helps the amateurs especially Max.

 

I live in Emacs. It is the most powerful text editor[1] in existence.

The html is just markup for content in static pages. The content has to be entered and markup applied in any case. For dynamic pages, you still have to create the template, which is on the edge of being a trivial exercise.

CSS must be typed. There is no application that can create presentation for you.

The scripting part just gets easier as you go. The more you code, the bigger your function library gets. Pretty much most code is copied from the libraries. Besides my own libs, I use PEAR for PHP.

No matter the tools, you still have to design the database schema and write and test all your queries. I steal a lot from previous projects. Data is often in some odd format. I'll write an AWK script to reformat, strip unneeded data and reformat to be sourced into the database.

The Imagemagick library can handle a lot of the graphics needs, eg. adding captions to pics, making thumbnails, rotating images, fuzzing them, sharpening them, and &c.. It runs in the shell via command line, so I simply open a shell buffer in Emacs, and type the commands. Complex image manipulation is subbed to someone who has a clue about it. I sure don't.

Except for testing in browsers, all this is done from the editor.

I also work in Linux which is considerably more productive than in Windows[2].

cheers,

gary

[1] Emacs is extensible. You are free to write your own functions and make them a part of Emacs and its behavior. For example, in html major mode, it only takes two keystrokes to insert just about any tag pair. If you have an area selected, it will put the pair around the area. In xhtml mode, it will validate on the fly. Its clipboard (called a kill ring) holds 60 strings, any of which you can paste (called a yank) by rotating around the ring. Change the number if you want.

[2] Windows does not have a good shell language. In Linux you can use any of several, even in the same script, plus any of a number of other scripting languages.

 

kk5st : thx for your information, today i just learn a new thing

 

I use a combination of both for my sites, depending on what is needed.

Coding something takes time, which can be avoided when using something such as WordPress or phpNuke. But sometimes you need something which a CMS doesn't provide by default. Then it is a case of decided whether to write a hack for the CMS you are using, or develop your own system.

 

Hello,
I make all of my sites in notepad and try to use only PHP. Of course sometimes i'm forced to use javascript but very minimal. I prefer php but when its like 4am and I left out a ; or a , or a ' looking for them in notepad is a pain. Was much worse when I tried to find errors in javascript. Anyway last night I made a basic forum with login from scratch that takes these steps:
Create Account ---> EMail sent to creator of account to verify email address
Verify Account ---> Account has been verified then email sent to owner of website for approval
Approval of Account ---> Owner of site clicks a link from email that grants permission for the account to have login access, Email sent to person who created account
Login ---> Taken to member section/forum page
Forum ---> Displays 20 posts per page with previous and next buttons
Posts ---> User can post a new message or reply to an existing message
This all took me about 3.5 hours. Notepad is the way to go
Mike

 

Depends on what the project calls for. Not all projects need a CMS.

 

Hand code. With php includes for footer, menu, header, etc. (Parts of the site that are the same on every page, so it's easier to update a single file than each page)

 

i prefer dreamweaver....

 

i prefer to make my own website using dreamweaver and notepad for quick editing.. it's much better for me to use this option for me to have full access/control over my site's layout and contents..

 

Design: Paint
Code: Notepad

 

Especially if you like the ugliest HTML ever.

I use programmer's notepad and a CMS like Wordpress or Drupal.

 

good choice

 

i allways prefer joomla . it's easy to install and configure and it has so many extensions

 

I have never used a cms or blog yet. I have put wordpress on one of my site but I will remove it soon.

The reason for not using a ready made cms or blog is that they comes with many options you don't even needed and they often don't have the things which you needed

 

This is so true. I used to hand code it all during my "asp" days but php makes it so much easier.

 

I uses php includes for the footer, menu, and only on some headers.

I incorporate SEO into every design I make, so I never include a <h1> tag in the header like some people do.

I make a wordpress looking site (with that blog feel) but I never use a CMS I do it all myself