You debunked nothing, simply defended genocide you little hitler. The trap your trying to escape from is the one you created yourself; Liar
I'd disagree with you debunking anything, since it doesn't matter if Ahmadenijad did say it or not, what matters is that you condone such words IF they were actually said - yet you call Toopac Hitler when he gave you the same example against muslims. That's hypocrisy, Frenkie.
can you post a source for that? as i understand it they have never admitted to having or tested a nuke yet. without nukes, Israel kicked the crap outta 4 arab nations in 6 days. go figure
Samantha ?? are u israelian who hates arabs for nothing or what ? Israel is "ZERO" without the US help , it's good that they could use the US to their side , but still ZERO without them.
I wouldn't consider Israel a big ZERO without the help of the US, but ofcourse the help from US is a massive boost for the army.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_states_with_nuclear_weapons Just because you dont admit something doesn't mean it doesn't exist. The fact is Israel has US nukes.
Well, the words wernt said by ahmedinejad, so even now your argument is false. Also, you are saying he wishes Israel would be wiped off the map, is totally different. A Country, not the people. Where as hitler (Toopac) is wishing for a whole religious group to be wiped out. Theres a big difference.
So for you it's a matter of numbers then ? Israel has only about 7 million people living there, against hundreds of millions of muslims ? So is that ok for you to accept someone wishing for a 7 million people's murder, but not ok if its more than that number ?
"The duck is yellow" "no it isn't" "Yes it is, look at this banana, it's the same color as the duck... yellow" "What makes you think the banana is yellow?" "because it IS yellow" "no it isn't try again" Wow... just wow.
It doesn't matter if he said it or not you are the one arguing a point & said: So that's either what you believe personally or what you believe the Irainian president to have said/meant, so don't try to duck out because i won't let you. Yes it's different, it's not too nice putting the shoe on the other foot is it? only one way hate is allowed in Islam i take it? I said muslim counties Iran, Iraq etc, can you not read? even if you assumption is correct that i want all muslims to be wiped out then you did exacly the same thing with the Jews in Israel because i only changed "Israel" to "muslim countries" in you statement below, which you admit is not a threat or anything. Those words were said by you, you said: Then by me: I said exactly the same thing in reverse & you take issue with it, that's an hypocrite. Why did you take issue with what i said?
Estimated worldwide nuclear stockpiles Undeclared nuclear weapons states Israel 75-200[13] none or unknown ok i just wanna see what none or unknown means to you? to me none means none. and unknown means none because we dont know if they have any. but as you like to trust and quote Wiki: none and unknown: Unknown a page Wiki has about the unknown, whats on the page? it's unknown, because they dont know but you trust Wiki huh? or is that unknown too?
My my... what a confused and ambling thread. Well, the title is "Who is more powerful, Israel or Iran". But first, lets settle a couple of little shibboliths that have emerged en-route. When the president of a Nation states that a country 'should' be wiped off the map, then this WILL be understood as a desire by that nation to undertake the action. In other words, it IS a threat. Any attempt to state otherwise is just foolishness, apologetic sophistry or downright lying. The end. No. The US provided no help untill AFTER the 1967 war. It DID provide money (or the equivelant in weapons) AFTER 1967 as it saw Israel as being a balwark against increasing Soviet influence in the region, especialy with Syria. At one stage the figures where around 3 Billion /year, though in recent years this has declined dramaticaly. (I've also heard a theory that the supply of arms was a deliberate attempt to strangle the Israeli Defence Industries, who where producing excellent tanks and small-arms in the 1980's, and where about to produce their own jet fighter. The US feared that this would undermine their OWN arms sales. In effect, the US was not subsidising Israel, but subsidising Hughes, Raytheon, Ford Aerospace, Lockheed etc etc). Anyway, to the point of the thread. What do you mean by 'powerful' ? In demographic terms, Iran has a population of around 66 million, dwarfing Israels' 7 million. Iran occupies about 1.6 million square miles, making it the sixteenth largest country in the world, dwarfing Israel at 8000 square miles. Iran has far more in the way of raw materials (especially oil) than Israel.. indeed, Israel has virtually no natural resources to speak of. Economicly Iran APPEARS bigger than Isreal. It's GDP of about 600 Billion dollars is larger than Israels at 170 Billion. However, Oil accounts for the bulk of this, and the GDP per capita of Iran (at about $8000) is less than that of Israels (around $26,000). Iran is struggling to build an industrial infrastructure, whereas Israel mastered this in the 1970's and has now moved on to high-tech and service industries. Economic growth in Israel is higher than that in Iran, but not by a huge amount. Whereas Israel has acheived independance in most industrial sectors, Iran still requires outside help even to maintain and develop its refinary and oil infrastructure. Militarily, Iran has a far larger army, but Israel has vastly superior weapons systems and training. In particular, their air-force is VASTLY superior to Iran's both in numbers, quality, and training/capabilities. However, non of this is really relevant because the two countries lack a common border, and hence could not invade each other. Iran lacks the capability to strike at Israel with aircraft (due to the range, if nothing else). Israel - in principle - CAN launch airstrikes against Iran, but only by flying over hostile territory, and only carrying light bombloads. Iran DOES have a long-range missile program, and could launch ballistic missiles against Israel. However, these are thought to be inacurrate, and Israel has a very effective anti-ballistic-missile defence system, (the Arrow-3), one of the few in the world. There are very few strategic targets in Israel for Iran to attack. On the flipside, Israel could bankrupt Iran very rapidly by launching missile or aircraft attacks against Iran's Oil storage or refinary plants. As an industrialised country, Israel has the ability to make additional weapons (missiles, aircraft etc) whereas Iran cannot. Hence Israel is better positioned in a long-term conflict. So on balance I would say that Israel is more powerful. Yup. Curiously compulsive though, isn't it ? Meow Purr.
As I already said before, Ahmedinejad didn't even say "Israel should be wiped off the map" so again your argument is pointless. Kids
Doesn't even matter if he said it or not, it just showed us that you have no problem with such statements towards Israel, yet have a big problem when it is towards Muslim countries, by calling people Hitler, and overall being a hypocrite.
If i concluded from your posts that you are a true muslim & that you represent muslims in general then i would class all muslims as liars. What you try to deny is clear to everyone else on DP, the only people that will agree with you are muslims who share your believes methods & joy of wiping jews out, in other words other hitlers like yourself. Good day
How old are you? You said this below: Frankly i don't give a damn what the nutter of Iran said, you defend the above even if he didn't say it, so the problem is you. Then when i flipped it to muslim countries you spaz out, you little muslim hitler wannabe