just a final post from me to say thank you to everyone who helped with their opinions. it was especially nice to see that #211, which is a traditional filipino hat, got a lot of support from you foreign folks. in fact, it seems there is no significant disparity between the designs preferred locally and the designs preferred in this DP forum with lots of international members. i guess that there is something in good, well-balanced designs that transcends national boundaries. anyway, because there was no clear favorite, the judges had to make their own decision. so far the public reaction has been ranged from enthusiastic to good. i think it's usually the case, with logos or new car model designs, that as people get used to the design, it grows on them, and they tend to like it better after a few weeks or months, even if the first impression wasn't spectacular. provided, of course, the design really is well-balanced and has inherent qualities. wow! small world. hi drpepper! another one! heya weblazer. it's nice to see so many pinoys in this thread... popping out of the woodwork! it's often said that there are Pinoys in every country in the world, and i guess that's true about the internet too. don't forget to stick the logo on your sites guys