Which Historical event give you pain most?

The destruction of Islam and Muslims in Spain pains me most. How rudely they were killed! Which incident pains you most?

 

LOL you invaded us and you are sad that you were killed ? Now that's rich . You're lucky to still be alive .


The burning of the library of Alexandria is a real tragedy .

 

Hands down, the fall of the Roman Empire. 2000 years ago, they had underground plumbing, sewer, aqueducts, currency, massive libraries, and advanced scientific study. Complacency and religious fanaticism sent all of mankind into the dark ages, where we butchered people for reading and thinking for nearly 2000 years. Had the Roman empire continued, we would have likely built super computers 1500 years ago and cured most major diseases 1000 years ago.

In Morocco, just to the south of Spain, above ground sewage, tainted water, poverty, and houses are built with mud are common today. In the same country sit the remains of Volubilis, built 2000 years ago by the Romans, complete with underground plumbing and houses made of stone.

 

I agree with the burning of the Library of Alexandria, not the largest single incident, but still so much knowledge lost. Then couple that with the fall of the Romans and the dark ages, and we lost so, so much. However, I'm not sure how it would have gone with the Romans. Would we still have an emperor? Would we still be Catholic? I personally like how it ended up, as it seems to be for the best up to now. There's always the chance that had there been modern technology hundreds of years ago, that we'd even be here. Nuclear holocaust, all out war, dwindling resources, pollution, etc. could have led to civilizations demise. There's no guarantee that people keep heading towards enlightenment and world peace, even in our future.

As to the O.P., Apocalypse is correct. Muslims attacked the Iberian peninsula, then act like it was *rude* to be re-attacked. I wouldn't call that rude, but defending your own lands. Even if that means retaking lost lands. Your argument sounds like some anti-Christian point, citing the expulsion of Muslims from the Iberian as *rude*, rather than actual brutal points such as the Holocaust or the Inquisition.

 

Right. I support this thinking. When you have super knowledge and technologies you develop super weapons of mass destruction and the wars go on because humans will always do this. Some movies and stories about time travel depict violence as a necessary element or factor of existence. There's this "Timecop" movie whose hero believes in going back into the past to stop some guys who are trying to kill Hitler. The reason? To allow the course of World War II to happen as our known past in order to preserve what we see around us as the present. My point is that you're not human if there's no pain and sadness. And wars too..

 

You have some major lack of information there man . The dark ages in the West lasted for @1000 years from the sacking of Rome in 410 to the early Renaissance in the 1400s . In the east the Byzantine Empire held on until 1050 . The real Dark Age was short lived , only 4 centuries and it was triggered by centuries of invasions , insufficient military readiness and socio-cultural decay .

 

It is so horrific to know that these so called religion has killed so many people than any other thing in the world. Mankind has suffered so much because of this sh!t. Why ?

 

Historical events :

When the trumpets sounded, the army shouted, and at the sound of the trumpet, when the men gave a loud shout, the wall collapsed; so everyone charged straight in, and they took the city. They devoted the city to the Lord and destroyed with the sword every living thing in it—men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep and donkeys.

The Medieval Inquisition is a series of Inquisitions (Roman Catholic Church bodies charged with suppressing heresy) from around 1184, including the Episcopal Inquisition (1184-1230s) and later the Papal Inquisition (1230s). It was in response to large popular movements throughout Europe considered apostate or heretical to Christianity, in particular Catharism and Waldensians in southern France and northern Italy. These were the first inquisition movements of many that would follow.

The Crusades were a series of Holy Wars launched by the Christian states of Europe against the Saracens. The term 'Saracen' was the word used to describe a Moslem during the time of the Crusades. The Crusades started in 1095 when Pope Claremont preached the First Crusade at the Council of Claremont. The Pope's preaching led to thousands immediately affixing the cross to their garments - the name Crusade given to the Holy Wars came from old French word 'crois' meaning 'cross'. The Crusades were great military expeditions undertaken by the Christian nations of Europe for the purpose of rescuing the holy places of Palestine from the hands of the Mohammedans.

 

@Popo: No fall of Rome would mean no crusades. If Rome had survived, the name Christ would be unknown today, and certainly not the name Mohammad, though I have a distinct feeling the Jews would still be around.

All it took was inflation, multiculturalism(Greek and Latin), special interest groups(Christians), and a few incompetent leaders.

 

The exact causes of Rome's fall are still under debate but I'd point out to overcentralization , military failure , demographic decline , moral decay and tyranny . If anything Christianity pumped up some vigor slowing down the decay .

Anyway more on this can be read here :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declin..._fall.2C_decline.2C_transition_and_continuity

Also Popo is either high or loosing his sanity .

 

Isn't it remarkable the facts that most have the same religion as their parents. It always happens to be the right religion for these peeps. If we were brought up in ancient Greece we could be worshiping Zeus or Apollo. If we were born Vikings we could be worshiping Thor or Wotan. Its indoctrination passed on.

 

Which religion has killed more people than you have killed in your first world war? Which religion has killed more people than you or your lords have killed in the second world war? Which religion has killed more people than your lords have killed in Iraq? Your lords have invented such weapon which can seven destroy the whole earth within few seconds. Which religion has made a weapon more dangerous than it? Islam? Christianity? Hinduism? no. All this are the creation of Dajjal, one eyed giant.

 

FYI : Rome was extremely tolerant society, if they acquire new land through wars or other tactics, they did interfere in the religious, traditions or customs of the people of the new land. So If Roman empire would have stayed you would still have Christ and Mohammad. Baring the attack or Carthage, Rome never destroyed temples or other important landmarks of the conquered land.

 

Sure. And just because I tolerate my house guest's bad jokes and chewing with their mouth open, doesn't mean I let them tell me what to do in my daytime hours, and what furniture I can put in my house. Just because my body can tolerate quite a few cancer cells floating about, doesn't mean I let them consume the host, or I'd be dead.

Tolerance only goes so far before the Roman empire gets replaced by the Holy Roman Catholic Church. Notice how much less tolerant the society became by means of all it's tolerance.

 

You must have misunderstood my post or just don't know how to read but either way I would describe it in picture so you can grasp the meaning.

This dude dies so many times for humanity and never expect eternal worship

 

Rome wasn't tolerant , unless you mean "tolerant with lesser morons as long as an armada of slaves are doing the work for us" .

@popo LSD is one hell of a drug .

 

Drugs makes someone hallucinate that there are beings that......

Virgins can give birth

The dead can resurrect

Persons can walk on water

Talking to a burning bush

Turning water into wine

Living inside a whale


People who think these are true are on drugs ! Reality check !

 

Troll harder

 

So that is trolling when I explained the things.

I guess people are sane when they talk to a burning bush. (sic)

The world have yet to see a person who can walk on water.

The world have yet to prove that a person can after 3 days be alive.