When Will Ron Paul Drop Out

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  1. guerilla

    guerilla Notable Member

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    #81
    Hallelujah brother. Sing it from the mountain tops!

    This is incorrect, a FISA warrant was required until the (sic) Protect America Act of 2007 has not yet been constitutionally challenged afaik.

    The former. There have been numerous instances where government agents have used self-written search warrants for domestic investigation purposes that have nothing to do with either national security, foreign nationals or terrorism.

    Please watch the video I keep linking and enlighten yourself. Napolitano is the FOX Judicial expert, and a legendary Judge.
     
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    Zibblu Guest

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    #82
    I don't see Ron Paul going anywhere anytime soon. The question should be when will Huckabee, Giuliani, and Thompson drop out. This is a 3 man race: McCain, Romney, and Ron Paul.
     
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  3. myp

    myp Well-Known Member

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    #83
    Actually I do understand the Constitution and I know that there is no mention of wiretaps because the Constitution has not been amended with anything specific about it. If you look at the 4th amendment though, you may consider wiretapping without a warrant to be against that. There have been several court cases in United States history bringing that up and the decisions have been back and forth. I understand that the Constitution doesn't specifically state the right to privacy, as i stated earlier, but it has been an implied right that we have just had and that is being taken away from us because of the Patriot Act.

    I guess i will have to enlight you on that:
    source: http://www.alternet.org/story/11854/
     
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  4. Isaac

    Isaac Peon

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    #84
    Are you kidding me? Ron Paul has been at the bottom of the polls (around there with Giuliani and Thompson). Ron Paul gets virtually no press coverage at all. Why? Because he has no chance. If this is a 3 man race, it's between McCain, Romeny, and Huckabee.

    From what I have observed, Ron Paul is simply an internet sensation, and nothing more.
    Do you get all your information from such biased sources?
     
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    omgitsfletch Well-Known Member

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    #85
    Maybe you should look a bit more into the delegate selection process. Just as the popular vote doesn't decide who goes into office in the Presidential election, these oversized straw polls for each state don't directly decide who actually gets nominated, at least in many of the states.
     
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    guerilla Notable Member

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    #86
    10% in Iowa, and 14% in Nevada, good for second is an internet sensation? More than $12 million raised in 3 days online, setting a new record and then breaking it again for the largest single day of donations in electoral history?

    Gimme a break. You need to log off the net and smell the liberty brewing.

    Quoted for Truth!
     
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    AGS Notable Member

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    #87
    That's total BS.

    The reason the controlled mainstream media give him no coverage is because they are scared of him. Paul stands against pretty much everything that the people that control the mainstream media want.

    In short, Ron Paul is too honest and would actually care about the American people unlike all the rest of the CFR puppets. That's the real reason that he gets no mainstream media coverage.
     
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    pingpong123 Well-Known Member

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    #88
    exactly and the more the mainstream media ignores him the more the american people will see this bias and it will actually help him gain even more in popularity. America was built on a revolution of freedomand liberty and Ron paul has started another one.
    I got a boatload of people ready to vote for him in cali. Im gonna spread the word like wildfire.
     
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  9. Zibblu

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    #89
    Huckabee has no money. Huckabee lost the heavily evangelical South Carolina despite a huge amount of positive media attention. If he couldn't win SC in that situation then he's done. He didn't so he is. He's done, it's just a matter of how much longer he holds on. I assume he'll stick it through Feb. 5 and then drop out.

    Ron Paul has a huge grassroots campaign and people who really really believe in him and his ideas. People who are going to finance his campaign to the very end. The Paul campaign is banking on a brokered convention. Remember it's delegates that win. In a situation where there is no clear winner it becomes quite technical and Paul's campaign and grassroots has put a lot of effort into winning the delegate vote. Dig Louisiana's results at the caucus today, Paul looks like he picked up a lot of delegates although it is not official yet. It's likely that Paul is basically in 3rd place (passing Huckabee) in delegate count with LA added to the mix.

    The worst thing that could happen for the Paul campaign is to have McCain pull away and look like a clear front runner heading into Feb. 5, so I'm hoping anyone but McCain wins Florida so that the other warmongers stick around and split the warmonger vote.
     
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    #90
    Hard to say this the way I want it to be understood, but I don't think what you first sentence says is correct. Since people are so media driven and so many don't question what they see on the news, many won't ever know RP.

    Now at the same time, I don't really see a bias unless RP does take LA in a landslide and the media doesn't make a big deal of it, since that would be a big deal.
     
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    #91
    You know, everytime I listen to Ron Paul I just view him as a "master politician". I think he says whatever it is you want to hear, whether he truly believes in it or not. I'm not absolutely sure on this, but there has been talk about him being in favor of abortion rights, and now openly says that he is against abortion. Is this true?
     
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    guerilla Notable Member

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    #92
    You're kidding right?
     
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    myp Well-Known Member

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    #93
    Um, no I did a simple Google search and picked an article that explains it. KalvinB should be searching for it anyway because he's the one who didn't know what it was.
     
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  14. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #94
    I don't either. I believe he will remain a second tier candidate. Even though a few candidates have dropped out, I don't believe anyone things their supporters will be rushing over to Ron Paul. He'll just have less competition to fight for last place ;)
     
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    guerilla Notable Member

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    #95
    LMAO. Good one GTech. :D

    But I believe last place currently belongs to Rudy. He has less votes to date, and likely less delegates as well.
     
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  16. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #96
    I believe most everyone that follows, knows that Rudy has not campaigned in these early states. Most people know this. He's going for Florida, leading into Super Tuesday. A gamble, no doubt, however, I believe it's a bit of a stretch to proclaim a victory over a candidate that has not been campaigning in early states.

    I'm confident going into Florida, he will not be competing with RP for last place though. That's something I'd place a bet on ;)
     
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    #97
    The facts however bear out a different story. Rudy campaigned twice as much as Paul in Iowa, and even though he beat Paul by a % IIRC in NH, spent nearly twice as much money.

    The important facts are, terrorism is no longer a major issue. Even the war has taken a back seat to the economy. Rudy's campaign has been horribly mismanaged, his advisers are mostly war hawks and foreign policy types, and without a war with Iran, he really doesn't have the (sic) platform to run on social, economic or domestic issues.
     
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  18. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #98
    I disagree, the facts (real facts) do not bear out a different story. Rudy may have done some early on campaigning, but he has been absent in these early states, and the fact is, it's widely know, reported in the media and is a clear indicator why he hasn't had much "face" time in these early states.

    I disagree here. Terrorism is a major issue. That doesn't preclude other issues from being important. Terrorism is probably not important for those that believe America deserves such.

    Ron Paul's campaign has been horribly mismanaged. His advisors are incompetent, as many on the RP forums point out, have failed in many areas including creating "reasonably professional" video advertisements. That, unto itself, has been a blessing to America.
     
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    #99
    Your denial of the truth is grander that the size of mount Rushmore!!! "Ron Paul's campaign has been horribly mismanaged"??? WTF as opposed to that of your candidate..whats his name again? You are something else. LMFAO!

    Eat this!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtfI-9DKbko
     
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  20. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #100
    The number of delegates and close last place finishes would seem to indicate you simply do not have a grasp of reality. Perhaps you should stick with the world of play station II.
     
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