When was this world created?

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  1. GeorgeB.

    GeorgeB. Notable Member

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    #161
    Haha, exactly. Moses just walked up to 2 T-rex and said hey dude.. get on this boat man! Stop biting me!

    I can't remember perfectly but I think the explanation for all the animals just getting on the boat and cooperating was that God made them or something. (bible believers always have to make up excuses and addons for their perfect bible.)

    Again it's funny all these magical events just took place in front of everyone's eyes like that crap just happens every day. Magic floods that rise up and cover the globe, animals obeying one man instead of eating him.

    Too bad none of that stuff hapens in the real world or christians would have proof. Oh wait, their logic is that well we can't have proof because God wants us to "just believe". So he didn't back then? He just parted seas and stepped in whenever he felt like it back then huh?
     
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    #162
    George, if you were to take some of the earths animals to another planet and you were going to take 2 elephants on the shuttle - how would you do it? (assuming it was possible)
     
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    #163
    Why, I would pray for a magical miracle of course!
     
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    #164
    You must score really, really low on IQ tests... simple answer, try again...

    Maybe yo-yo can help you with this one.
     
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    #165
    Yes my employer hires complete morons to engineer it's video networks....

    I'm simply making fun of how silly the question is. You are the one that believes it happened. So you tell me. Stop trying to make it into a full lesson plan and make your damn point already. I'm far from a child and don't need someone who believes in the logical equivalent of unicorns to patronize me.
     
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    #166
    <voice inside head>Must control self, much more fun watching weirdos arguing than poke fun at them.</voice inside head>

    :D
     
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    #167
    Ahh but who's the weirdo? The ones arguing a long standing theological debate or the one that enjoys watching? :D
     
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    #168
    It seems to me that debunked turned the intellectual debate into a personal attack after he lost the argument. He can't answer the pointed questions, so he has to turn to insults. Debunked, do you really believe all the ridiculous statements in the Bible? About the floood, no dinos (how did moses fit two brontosaurus-a hundred ton beast-onto a wooden ship?). Actually, while were on this topic, lets assume he didn't take dinos, but just two of EVERY species on earth. The weight alone would be thousands of times what a wooden boat could hold. Or did Moses build a boat larger and more technically advanced than a supertanker? Where did he put the feed for 40 days and 40 nights? Or did it rain "manna"? Maybe some frogs too, so the birds wouldn't go hungry? lol. Please think about your beliefs logically before trying to defend them. If you must believe in a higher power because you are afraid of facing life on your own, please don't try to intellectualize it.
     
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    #169
    boy, you failed the same IQ test. (I didn't personal attack anyone. If you take something like that as a personal attack you shouldn't try to have a discussion with anyone.)

    That aside, do dinos start out at 100 tons? That is a new theory to me. I thought they started off much smaller than that, but I guess there must be a new version of evolution where all animals hatch or are born full size. LOL - talk about some logic.

    Try again.
     
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    #170
    bible doesn't give instructions how to split the atom or what absolute zero is either, so I fail to see a point here.
     
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    #171
    Nice try.... but I think giant man eating lizards running around would have warranted a little mention in the bible there smarty.... Again, they didn't mention them because they didn't know! It's OK humans are flawed like that. And so were the authors of the bible.

    But it does say the earth and all it's inhabitants were created in 6 days with a 7th day for him to "rest". So what we're getting at is that if you believe the bible you believe that Adam and Eve were running around the garden of eden naked with T-Rex, neandrethal man, and all the other prehistoric creatures.

    They were just created with the ability to speak and document all that was happening but instead made primitive cave drawings that we find today.

    I'll ask again, why did all the miracles stop? Has God lost his mojo? God flat out punished people back then, now we just have to "believe" he's angry.

    Before space flight and space travel we believed heaven was up there in the clouds. Now biblical scholars are scrambling to reinterpret the bible and say no it is in some other dimension... err... or something.

    It's crazy but the following sentence is true and it's scary.

    If the bible said unicorns were real you'd find a way to believe that too.
     
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    #172
    you make a false assumption 1 day = 24 hours.

    You also make a false assumption that "biblical scholars" know what they are talking about. They can only interpret what's written or written by someone else. They don't have any real clues.

    Assume, for a second, that God is real. He instructs people to write the Bible. Is he going to tell them every minute detail that would end up confusing them (cuz they can't possibly understand) or put things in a way that is understandable by them? Probably the latter.
     
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    #173
    "the stars in the sky" Mentioned in the bible - tell me why...
     
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    #174
    Because they didn't know those stars were actually the suns of other planets?

    Man is like an animal in a zoo. To us in early recorded history, the earth was it. Well we've been to the moon now and even have high powered earth based telescopes to see beyond that.... we're starting to wake up.
     
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  15. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #175
    Man, that Kent Hovind Rocks!!!
     
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    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #176


    Not all of them. Some of them are planets!
     
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    #177
    Knew that one was coming. It's a more recent excuse for the shortcomings of the bible. So who says a day = more than 24 hours? What exactly did a day mean to them back then and show me ONE... just one solid historical record from that era that measured a day as the millions of years the dinosaurs ruled the earth before God said.. *stretch* *yawn* I'm bored.. I think I'll make some creatures in my likeness now.

    Cmon you know that's ridiculous. If they meant millions of years they'd have said millions of years! Or did days = years ONLY in Genesis? Because if memory serves me correctly, the term "years" was used quite often throughout the bible.
    Glad you said it and not me because I would have been scoffed at. The point is... that's my point!! You depend on a book full of holes interepreted by men through centureis of dilution who'm you admit have no real clues. Yet you think it's a great idea to just believe it.
    Face it...... the bible was written by primitive men with a primitive view of how the world works and it shows in the writings. You say well that's just because God didn't want to give them all the details, I say it's because they just didn't know. Which seems more plausible? For one second take the faith blinders off and be honest with yourself.
     
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    #178
    Ok. Look at it from another point of view. If its written that the world is created in 7 days. Isn't that just a point of view from the guy who wrote it? If you put the creation on fast forward (which is probably pretty uneventful from a human standpoint), then you're just gonna sum it up as such. Even Romans didn't even a number for "millions" - its an unknown concept and something that probably couldn't be imagined.

    Also, if you look at time from a different point of a view. To a fruit fly, a day is a billion years, to us a day is a day.

    Yeah. I tend not to listen to "scholars" about the Bible cuz they are generaly clueless. I fail to see your point again. You agree with me, but then say the took the book they study is the problem? You are pointing at the wrong people here.
     
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    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #179
    Actually, they did. You've been watching too much of that there Fox News man.

    The "Bible" mentions dinosaurs, several times actually. But we've been over this before. Why rehash?
     
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    #180
    I edited your statement so it makes more sense. Hope you don't mind.

    Fruitflys didn't write the bible silly. People did. And to people, a day is a day. Let's stay focused.

    OK that statement makes me wonder what we're actually debating here. Just to be clear, what are you trying to say again?
     
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