When was the last time you posted something here that...

Easy

1) Today (condolences for Canadian soldiers that died with no mention of US troups as it would have been off topic).

2) At some point in the last month I believe I specifically said that I thanked US troops for being willing to lay their lives on the line.

3) My entire wiretapping thread.

4) Today (see #1)

5) Today (see #1)

6) Today (see #1)

Now... answer me this too:

1) Lesse. Only two posts today before this one... one pointing out the lack of link to the original article, one emotionally based so... last week, when I attempted to use the Socratic method to get some people to think about where bike riders were supposed to ride their bikes.

2) Today (See A1)

3) Today (See A1), unless people were offended by my saying I was sorry to hear about the deaths of some Canadian soldiers.

4) A debate takes more than 1 post, and with the lack of people willing to engage in formal debate, I'm not sure I ever did this. I have often posted links, and had civil discussions over topics with people, where we examine information and evidence, but I have yet to have a formal debate with anyone on this forum.

 

Don't twist my words, edz. What would the world be like if the United States had no military - ANYWHERE.

Obviously - but I wonder why this is the "Iraq" war? We are at war against terrorism - it's a GLOBAL war. This is not just in Iraq.

You do what you are told to do. You know how many Germans in the Nazi era didn't want to kill Jews and gypsies? (I know you hear about all the bad germans that enjoyed it) But most of them hated Hitler - yet obedience in one's eyes may be greater than that of treason.

YOU are, Edz.

 

I'm not twisting your words, your doing it on your own as i said before.

By the way, what about War on Drugs?
More people are getting killed due to the import of drugs into your country then terrorism have ever caused for your country or every country in the world even.

How many Americans died in the U.S. due to terrorism this year Chulium?

Terrorism is a greater threat in your mind then it is in the real word today.

 

What I fail to understand is the constant use of disparaging comments, epithets, and ad hominems. I am not even talking about foul language.

I do enjoy reading a good verbal joust in a civilized manner. Maybe we could use some guidelines, or rules of engagement?

 

LOL no chance of that buddy. We have way too many crazy's in this P&R forum for that to happen.

Some people here even think that politicians would never lie to their people.

Welcome to the mad house buddy.

 

Politicians never lying. *snicker*

Still, not everything coming out of the mouths of politicians is a lie, and not everything on the TV/Internet is true.

 

Thanks for replying. I don't want to get into an argument so I will make this brief.

You are very patriotic and have a somewhat traditional view of how voters should relate to their Government. The reason people dislike Bush is simply because of the things he has done, and the things he has failed to do. Isn't this reasonable?

If I dislike the current US government does that mean I hate the US as a country? The answer is no, why would I even care about US government if I didn't view the US in a positive way.

I can't believe you still think this war was started to defend America, don't you read any newspapers or books?

Don't you care about the troops?

 

The irrational view of terrorism is the sad thing about human nature; we worry about things when they have some emotional value to them.

15 British soldiers were seized by Iran and the news media went crazy, 10 US soldiers were killed this weekend and it just gets a 60 second segment.

 

Chulium:

I'm an American. I support the US military and our troops. I've done so in many ways. I believe the US and the West is facing a long war against fundamentalist Islamic terrorism.

Why? Isreal has been confronting Islamic terrorism for almost 60 years. No lslamic nations speak out regularly and consistently against fundamental Islamic terrorism. The perspective of fundamental Islam reigns throughout the Islamic world and more specifically in Islamic nations and is not effectively or strongly negated within their own nations.

It is only getting more widespread.

I supported Bush in attacking Al-Queda in Afghanistan.

Having said that, I totally disagree with the war in Iraq. It is a bad war for America, draining our forces and strengths. It was started under false pretenses by the administration and is continuing without any honest evaluation by the administration.

It is my right, as an American to disagree with the President's policies.

When the president's supporters attack all who disagree with him as being al-queda supporters the supporters are simply being fear mongers. They are trying to quash the right of Americans to debate policy.

That is very dangerous to what makes America unique and strong. It in fact reeks of the same characteristics that tyranical governments use.

More and more Americans disagree with the President. The amazing thing to see now is that more and more former members of the Bush administration, or historically strong Republican supporters are vehemently against Bush policy. Would you call these people terrorist supporters?

 

GTech will, just give him enough time to see this post of yours.

d16man will also, because he mirrors everything GTech says.

 

LOL And that is probably why Bush's father won't make public comments.

 

Yeah OLD MAN BUSH has been ominously quiet for years now buddy.