When is the next pr update

My website has been up for 1 month now and it is still showing a pr of 0. i have use the i-web tools and it says that I have a potentially pr of 5. When will the update happen?

 

Check this site:
http://www.seocompany.ca/pagerank/page-rank-update-list.html

There was one PR update recently, two weeks ago, and your site was probably still not in GG index to reach higher PR then it has now. You have to be patient to see your PR climb up, anyhow do not forget that is not PR that matters but the SERPS.

 

LOL. I knew it wouldn't be long until we saw this.

 

tomorrow ...

 

in 6 hours.....

 

Why?

I've never understood why people keep referencing that page ( or similar pages) like it's some sort of bible.

1. Google updates when Google feels like updating. Pages like that one do not tell you when the next update will be - they only tell you when the last update occurred (more or less), which is to say they tell you when Google last felt like updating public PageRank. You can waste your time analyzing trends if you wish but at the end you'll be no further ahead in "predicting" the next update than if you had spent that time working on improving your site.

2. Public PR updates will not change your life in any significant way, unless you are trying to sell a site to someone who is naive enough to think it matters. By the time Google updates public PR, all changes reflected in the "update" have already been reflected in Google rankings - these are updated on a continuous and ongoing basis ("everflux"). When public PR updates, those "changes" have already been incorporated into your rankings. And by the time the public PR update completes, it will be accurate only for a short period of time before once again it falls behind "everflux" and becomes pretty much meaningless.

3. Stay away from those "Google PR prediction" sites - they are for entertainment only - they are almost as useless as Bob Mutch's "Google update history" page.

 

My opinion about the reffered site is very different from my opinion about bible.

I just wanted to give some basic advice to the person who started this thread.

 

Xaver, this part of your post was very helpful:

This part was not:

But I'm aiming that comment at the concept, not you personally. I just don't see how retrospective data is helpful, except in situations where there is a fixed or at least semi-fixed pattern.

 

don't be upset. minstrel used the bible analogy only to illustrate how 'authoritative' some of us find that site to be (although he clearly doesn't think so)

it's like when i say that the Adsense TOS is my holy tome. it means i read it religiously.

 

I actually don't even base things on the exported PageRank anymore. I base everything on Live PageRank because that's really all that matters. SERPs are based on live pagerank results so that's all that really matters -- in my opinion. If a site has a live pagerank of 7 or 8 but only has an exported pagerank of 2 or 3, I will surely want to do business with a site with such a high live pagerank because it will give my site better SERPs -- now -- not just when it's exported. So to answer your question, it's updating everyday really. The only 'updates' we see are when they export the pagerank publically.

 

I have a blog (blogspot), i just started posting videos from youtube and funny stuff 3 months ago and guess what

page rank 5 !

 

That's all well and good, but how do you go about determining the live pagerank of sites?

 

There are a couple sites that do it and there is a Firefox plugin that helps determine it. Basically they both just gather data from datacenters that are live data and then base it on that. I find it's very accurate and helpful to me.

 

Thanks for sharing. But what does that have to do with the thread topic?

 

But isn't there only ever a shift in live pagerank during an update? Do you mind sharing some URLs for this plugin?

 

How could you form such and opinion? I know there is concrete data that your statement is not true.

Minstrel?

 

Not if "live pagerank" means "real pagerank". That is updated on an ongoing basis: see Matt Cutts: What's an update?

I don't actually know precisely what fsmedia means by "live pagerank" but I was assuming he was differentiating between "real" PR and Toolbar PR and saying that of the two only "real" PR matters.

Of course, Google ranking is based on a lot more than ANY type of PR so if that's what was meant noppid is correct - the statement is false.

 

I realise that, but what I am trying to understand is how can tools emulate google's pagerank calculations, when only google themselves know the real pagerank of sites?

 

If you read back, it's been said they are for entertainment value.

 

Getya. I thought that was more referring to Pagerank Prediction Tools, and not the Live Pagerank Tool, fsmedia is talking about.