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When google will stop messing with pr

Discussion in 'Google' started by teckinik, May 3, 2009.

  1. #1
    One day your pr is 3 and then next day the number reduces to 0. Why the hell google keep on messing with pr. Isn't it affect the overall search algorithm of google ?
     
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    coolseo36 Well-Known Member

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    its not a mess its a part of algo...pagerank penalty is often bcoz of excessive low quality backlinks in short time, over cross linking in the network of sites, paid links etc.
     
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    skbcabey Member

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    #3
    i have that same problem
     
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    pipes Prominent Member

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    They will never stop, it keeps people from getting used to anything thats working. :)
     
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    pctec Well-Known Member

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    I went from 3 to NA to 3 within a week... its all part of the norm now and I don't really care what they do anymore...
     
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    Patricianian Well-Known Member

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    Guys, Try to forget about PR and focus much more on SERP's a PR 5 6 or even 7 is useless if you have no traffic... unless you want to sell text links and risk your PR ;)
     
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    Shazz Prominent Member

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    Its hard to retain a good PR if you got up fast.
     
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    poshswinger Active Member

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    I think there must be some reason for Google to downgrade your page's PR, not messing indeed.

    Maybe there are some links that are treated to be "bad" or "illegal" in Google's view?
     
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    dairyman Notable Member

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    Yeah. That could be the point. By constantly changing the algo, they keep you guessing about your status and so just forget about PR and move ahead. It is time to concentrate on traffic :)
     
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    ameran Well-Known Member

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    they will stop with that when we stop talking about it. PR is not important. Only your traffic is important and you should know that PR does not mean traffic.
     
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    newlogo Peon

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    rank and traffic is important, pr is not important
     
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    EC23 Peon

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    #12
    PR has little to do with rankings and traffic, it's not rare to see low PR pages outrank higher PR pages.
     
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    cchetanonline Banned

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    #13
    Pagerankâ„¢ is Google's patented technology (taken from some university), so they will never let there technology to go down, so they will conti. improving it.
    Sont worry many times PR doesnt affect the Search results positions..but some times it does :)
     
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    A sites PR is considered in Serps!
     
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    #15
    This is a sign that Google wants the Black Hats/Paid Links to go away and want webmasters to focus more on whats even more important, their visitors and to provide quality only sites in their search engines.
     
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    mokmok69 Peon

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    I think you must wait for 1 week to make sure that your PR is confirm.
     
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    higher pr i believe is a reflection of having either good quality backlinks and/or just a good number of backlinks.

    my understanding is that google does take into consideration the number and quality of your backlinks, along with other on- and off-page factors, of course, when determining individual search engine results. so the factors that determine page rank will somehow be reflected in search engine results...if you lose a lot of page rank in a google update, maybe it's time to take a look at your on and off page optimization etc..
     
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    anildewani Peon

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    I think they won't stop doing it :p

    They have some algorithms set up and they not change it frequently.
     
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  19. br3adman

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    I got a pagerank of 2 It use to be 4 I'm not concerned with it at all.
    Here is a overview of what it does

    PageRank relies on the uniquely democratic nature of the web by using its vast link structure as an indicator of an individual page's value. In essence, Google interprets a link from page A to page B as a vote, by page A, for page B. But, Google looks at more than the sheer volume of votes, or links a page receives; it also analyzes the page that casts the vote. Votes cast by pages that are themselves "important" weigh more heavily and help to make other pages "important". ”

    In other words, a PageRank results from a "ballot" among all the other pages on the World Wide Web about how important a page is. A hyperlink to a page counts as a vote of support. The PageRank of a page is defined recursively and depends on the number and PageRank metric of all pages that link to it ("incoming links"). A page that is linked to by many pages with high PageRank receives a high rank itself. If there are no links to a web page there is no support for that page.

    Google assigns a numeric weighting from 0-10 for each webpage on the Internet; this PageRank denotes a site’s importance in the eyes of Google. The PageRank is derived from a theoretical probability value on a logarithmic scale like the Richter Scale. The PageRank of a particular page is roughly based upon the quantity of inbound links as well as the PageRank of the pages providing the links. It is known that other factors, e.g. relevance of search words on the page and actual visits to the page reported by the Google toolbar also influence the PageRank.[citation needed] In order to prevent manipulation, spoofing and Spamdexing, Google provides no specific details about how other factors influence PageRank.[citation needed]

    Numerous academic papers concerning PageRank have been published since Page and Brin's original paper.[4] In practice, the PageRank concept has proven to be vulnerable to manipulation, and extensive research has been devoted to identifying falsely inflated PageRank and ways to ignore links from documents with falsely inflated PageRank.

    Other link-based ranking algorithms for Web pages include the HITS algorithm invented by Jon Kleinberg (used by Teoma and now Ask.com), the IBM CLEVER project, and the TrustRank algorithm.
     
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    Nystul Well-Known Member

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    the PR dance is impt, it keeps th search engine fresh.
     
    Nystul, May 4, 2009 IP