Whay this happen? 0 PR but #1 in Google!

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  2. boron

    boron Well-Known Member

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    Most of the sites are #1 on Google if you use the exact keyword as it is in the domain. Next, you don't know what is actual PR of the site at this moment.

    Site is 3 years old, it is in Yahoo directory, it has 'free advertising' in the Title...

    After a quick search...I think...they are 1st, because their competitors also don't have any PR or anything (except the title) better than they have.

    PR may have a lot with SERPs, but it is not like PR0 and PR1 sites compete...PR has power when it is high.
     
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    silveraden Banned

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    The free advertising forums is very competitive keyword and I think it's not about the title...it's the backlinks..but not the PR.. (confused)...
     
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    Other forums have much more backlinks as feeadvertisingforum.com has. On the other hand, one good (means high PR) backlink may override many other SEO factors. This tool show backlinks, and you can arrange them from high to low PR. Site with more high PR backlinks would be higher in SERPs (only one factor though, but may be strong). Site may have quite some backlinks with high PR (which is important for SERPs), but you don't see the high PR of the site, because PR is not updated. Besides - Google backlinks are not updated...but...you can make conclusions from backlinks shown by other tools.
     
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    Styxbowl20v Active Member

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    I wouldn't say that "free advertising forum" is a highly desired term. It gets less then 5 daily searches and combined with the fact that the actual domain name is that exact term would probably explain the ranking for that term.
     
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    nairbuoyevoli Active Member

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    SERP is different from PR.. " But the two has a relation.."

    This is my idea
    : One factor of PR based on BL where came from the other website.

    even your site rank. but less quality back links therefore result to 0 PR..
     
    nairbuoyevoli, Nov 20, 2007 IP
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    It is possible to have good ranking even you have low PR. I think it's about the quality links and the number links using targeted keywords as anchor text affect your rankings. And also the right use of title and right optimization of content.
     
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    silveraden Banned

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    Whatever keywords with the term "advertising forum" it will give you the same result.
     
    silveraden, Nov 20, 2007 IP
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    Well "advertising forum" is no big search term either. The fact is that you have a page rank of 0 and you wonder why you are number one for a pretty long tailed term that gets a small number of daily searches. It boils down to the fact that its your domain name.
     
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    It actually boils down to the fact that nobody else is targeting the search phrase. PR's only real effect is on the number of links coming back to the site (which there aren't many of, if any at all), although it is capable of influencing the ranking of a page in the index's search results. On top of that (as others have said), it's actually a pretty weak term to rank well for.
     
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    Test it,Yes,PR list on GOOGLE toolbar is not really PR of your website.
     
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    Its absolutely because of the relevence of the domain name.. and also u have got some link popularity too...
     
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    Advertising forum is a competitive keyword.
     
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    You need (for your forum):
    1. content
    2. links
     
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    when it comes to ranking in SERPS pr doesn't matter at all. its all about backlinks but backlinks eventually lead to higher PR so its a closed circle :)
     
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    May be, You have penalized by Google because of the banner listings of other websites at your home page, but PR has nothing to do with search engine rankings...
     
    mit, Nov 23, 2007 IP
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    i have found pr5 websites way down in 20th serps
    and pr1 website in the first 10 rank for the same keyword
    possible if the pr5 website is not interested in onpage optimisation (missing meta, title and keywords)
     
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    it's possible.. Pr Updated once around 3-5 months maybe in that time. your website not comply with their basis, but in continuously your SEO.. possible to get high rank even with less PR. :)
     
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    PR is not important when ranking a site, pr is just a tool, it merely means that your website is well established on the Internet..
     
    eli03, Nov 23, 2007 IP