I don't understand what up everyone's butt with complaining about NoFollow blogs when a list is posted. To my understanding, posting a comment or link on a site that will No Relevance the link will not hurt your site in regards to SE. In fact, the top 4 referrers to my blog according to Awstats this month are from NoFollow blogs and forums that I posted too. Each delivering about 400 to 100 uniques since September 1st. Is everyone just being complainers or am I missing something? I mean by the time you visit a site and figure out it's a NoFollow, you could have spent that time just submitting your link anyways and get the referring traffic. Any feedback is welcomed..... Regards,
yeh no follow is fine for traffic but no seo and thats what people are talking about people dont comment for traffic they do it for seo purposes and no follow has no benefit
Wrong, SEO'ers comment for SEO purposes. As a blogger, I comment to add to a discussion and as a result my comments are more likely to result in the blog owner discussing my own blog/site and giving a more relevant link. People get too caught up in getting their link out there without considering the comment.
Its the difference between traffic and backlinks. Personally traffic is the byproduct of backlinks and higher SERPS so if I can cut out the hassle of tracking keywords and just get high volumes of traffic from nofollow links then that is fine with me.
that was pretty much what i was saying most people dont comment just to get direct traffic, they do it for seo
People (round dp parts) get so obsessed with PageRank and what they can to increase their PageRank that they forget what they want it for. I assume they want 'dofollow' links to increase their PageRank to do better in serps to get more traffic. But as far as I can see, if you can cut out the middle stages and just place a link - yes, a nofollow link - and get the traffic, bingo! you've got the end result without the PR hassle!
Don't forget the SEO benefit of a nofollow link...just because it's indirect. I've received a lot of do follow links from other sites that liked my content after clicking on a nofollow link. Exposure is exposure. If your content is good you'll get do follow links from posting on nofollow sites.
The nofollow makes the links worthless for SEO purposes but you can get some traffic from them. No offense but I don't think you should be giving marketing advice when you said one of your top refers were nofollow links that gave you 40-100 uniques.
No they don't. They do it to spam their link. Most of the lists that are published on forums and blogs are used in large part by these spammers. They have no interest in the blogs or whether they are relevant to the site they are spamming. If they were truly interested in the SEO of the link, they wouldn't be commenting on abandoned blogs, articles dated over 2 or 3 months, making lame 'thank you friend' comments, hitting up several posts within 2 minutes time, etc. All of these spammy techniques gain them nothing of value.
I will take 40-100 'referral' uniques a month, if it converts them into readers. Then they become repeat visitors who have bookmarked your site or subscribed to your feed. They are no longer called 'referrals' any more and fall under the category of 'loyal visitors'. No offense, but you need a lesson in marketing advice if you cannot see this. And another thing, a nofollow link may get your page indexed if it hasn't been already. Think about it. Nofollow does not mean that they cannot follow the link to the other side.
No offense, but maybe you didn't fully read or misunderstood the opening response. No where did I claim to give advice. In fact, I'm asking for it being that my first blog opened 4 months ago. I came from the adult industry where traffic and income thrived from referring TGP and MGP's and there wasn't much use to spend time and energy playing with SEO in a over saturated market. The only people who had to worry about these things were the big guys until the blog explosion came along. Therefore, I only understand what I have read this far. From the information provided, I would have to agree the a NoFollow can become as beneficial as a DoFollow depending on some luck.
And you would be correct in your analysis. Blogs are not your normal type of website. They are like decentralized forums in essence, tight communities or groups. Social in nature. You cannot do approach these people with a normal website mentality. If you piss them off, you piss the group off too. And now with Akismet, you can be royally screwed and wind up on a blacklist.
Boy is that true. People seem to think thousands of links = thousands of dollar$. If only they spent some of their time creating content people actually wanted to read rather then spamming links they might get closer to that goal.
I believe that paying for links can actually hurt you in most cases. If your working on a site for the long run like I am, you have to consider the following. 1.) Is the site you are buying from practicing any black hat methods that will bring you down with it in the near future? 2.) If google finds out a site is selling links, or finds a page without a layout that might show some proof of this, it will not be good for you. I'm not against selling or buying links, but I believe the only safe way is to setup your back links so their not with a lot of other links all bundled together with not much relevance. The safest method would be to setup back links into articles IMO. Therefore, what most sites have to offer as far as selling links or spots concerns me to the point where I wouldn't purchase any. If I were able to find some sites with high PR in my niche, offering me a spot to write my own article or blurb with my URL, this I would do. There are a ton of resources on this forum that explains what google looks for. Most of the people who sell links won't tell you this, why would they? It's business to them and it's your job not to always take the easy route and do the research and work yourself sometimes.
That has nothing to do with your site. If their pagerank is penalized, for example, then you will no longer receive the link juice - sure - but it will not "bring you down". It is an external factor out of your control, and therefore you will not receive a penalty for it, rather you just lose those gains from the link. Besides which, that is a worst case scenario. See above. If they find out you've bought links, that's a different story.
No-follow only affects PR and you actually do get Google credit from the backlink, It just don't help your PR. It does work for SEO but hey let everybody think it don't. That helps me out. There are also 2 other points: 1. the targeted traffic that comes from the link itself. 2 Google is only 1 search engine. No-follow doesn't mean squat to Yahoo! 3 (bonus). When I get top search rank in Google and Yahoo! I get about the same traffic from each engine. Everybody says Google is sooo huge but Yahoo! is about equal when it comes to traffic from a top search score. I think Google is over rated and the rumor was started by Google itself. Peace, Herman
Where do I start? You are wrong on so many levels. This is the biggest load of crap that I have heard anyone say about Nofollow. Get your facts straight. I will give you No. 3, the bonus, however. It is true that Yahoo could provide just as good or more referral traffic than Google can. You may happen to be one of those rarities. Whether Google is over-rated or not, it would be a big mistake for anyone to ignore them. But hey, why don't you disallow Googlebot in your robots.txt file and see how that will work for you!