Does anyone think there is value to allowing sumbittors to place thier link in more than one category at the same time of submission instead of re-submitting thier site time after time? phpLynx seem to think so in releasing thier first update to thier script. http://www.cantufind.com/forum/showthread.php?t=678
As long it is an option for directory owners is good. For some it will be useful and for others no use at all.
Fair point, what I saw from this feature though is that no matter what product you sell if you can put it in more than one category then you are certain to increase your visibility and potential market, so in theory everyone could benefit from this feature, but as you said ultimately it would be down to choice of the site owner.
There is already a mod to PhpLinkDirectory by LinkForever that lets submitters submit their link to multiple categories. The mod is running on LinkForever, All4Seo and on few other directories it was installed. While installing we're asking dir owner how many additional categories he wants to have on submission form and for which link type. There's no limit for that, however I recommend to use no more than 3 additional categories. If the link is FEATURED type - it appears as FEATURED under main category and as REGULAR under all additional categories.
my directory totalXsearch.com has this feature and charges a reduced rate to be included in the extra categories. I think it is an 'ok' feature, nothing earth-shattering, I have seen you The Pheonix mention this feature in at least two other threads so I guess your really like it?
Well the question is will google like it It may NOW say... (after the restructure of webmaster guildlines) Welcome to the world of duplicate content But dont quote me....... as im not google and only offering a paradox of what could unavoidably happen thx malcolm
That's why I recommend it to use only for EXTRA FEATURED or PREMIUM option. If we're talking of 'duplicate content' - so what about 'Top Hits', 'Latest Links', 'Site of the Day' - it all serve duplicates.
I heard someone saying you should put something to stop robots from visiting those 'extra' pages so they don't find the duplicate content.
Im not trying to attack the mod... just saying that it will need a different outlook as if the same content is replicated in various catagories then it becomes duplicated EXACT content... Wether or not this happens is really googles call.. thx malcolm
I find submitting same link to different categories looks more like a spam to me and pretty much useless google might not like it if you know what i mean ? Crap malcom beat me to it. Cheers
I would discuss it. There are always some parts of text repeating in some part of of other text on different pages. Remember single link is only 1 of 10 or 20 links on category page. This means only 1 or 2 lines of dozens other lines of text will be repeated. And position of link is dynamic. It changes while other links appear or dissappear. I didn't hear of dirs penalted of duplicated links on top hits and in category. It's also dynamic, however top hits is not changing so often. 1 or 2 lines of text is not so much to find it as duplicated content. Link detail page remains only one. Maybe for dir owner it's useless, but surely not for submitters. And some info about duplicated content penalty: http://www.all4seo.net/duplicated_content.php And please do not treat this post as my mod's defence. I installed it only on few dirs. Not a big business for me. I'm even glad it's not implemented on hundreds of dirs, and I'm sure you know why.
Ok darge i can see your point and one well made I guess time and google will tell ... In a sense theirs always supposed to be a happy medium in between for something to work in harmony with google so.. thx malcolm
One is sure Malcolm: it's always good to share our thoughts, our experiences in easy, free of fighting discussion I wish Directories forum could look like that.: friendly, helpful discussion.
I know your not attacking the mod malcolm, besides its not a mod for in phpLynx's case they had it built in since last year, and your view is right, it could be percieved as dupe listings but unlikely as even the big guns like Yell.com use this feature as many companies want to get listed in different categories. Google aren't stupid, they know the definition of dupe content and don't always take the 'literal' route whether the listing being put in twice or more has any other ulterior motive than providing a better resource for the end user. It's an excellent feature in my opinion but only if its used properly, its certainly what business' want if not the directory owner and after all its them that count. @jg123, I have mentioned it on more than a couple of occasions as I saw it in action more than 6 months ago and knew it was exactly what I wanted. For me having a script provide it as a free feature is an even bigger incentive to get excited about it as I don't have to go worrying about paying for it to be added or making the mod myself, so yes you could say I am pretty excited about it, but hey that's just me, others may not like it and they are certainly entitled to thier opinions, if you don't like it don't use it I say.
@dargre; Well said, fair play to malcolm he usually does offer good input and why argue when you discuss. I for one am going to ignore the peanut throwers in future and skip to replying to those worth responding to, the children will soon get bored when they can't play. As for scripts, they can speak for themselves, let them be the judges not us, we're all bias to our own views.
@dargre You mentioned php LD already has this mod available, now lets think clearly before we proceed to the next stage...umm... last time I checked that was a paid mod, right? I think it costs $100 US, now tell me why should you purchase php LD and buy this modification, when you already have a script, with a much better spam protection, much better features, the ability to search by place, name and/or service. Think abit, the FULL SCRIPT without linkback to php Lynx costs 100$, and remember all our upgrades will be FREE OF CHARGE.. Tell me one feature, that php LD has which is more powerful than any of the php Lynx's? Quite a hard one, only thing php Lynx is having a small range of, is the templates which will come very soon, watch it. Lets go back in history abit, shall we? Its nice to see phpld copy phplynx's ideas as they had these features as far back as last year when I was beta testing it, that way I'm not discrediting their mod but making it clear that phplynx thought of it way before anyone else did.
haha there u go thread lost its path, and is now again turning into one of those hard to try promoting phylnx script.. Good luck continue on in promoting. So far its not work +vely but surely -vely .
There has to be a benefit for searchers. Most websites are on a topic that would happily fit within two or more categories, so why make visitors guess where to look? Making it easier for submitters to enter multiple categories will encourage more of them to do this. The only time it wouldn't be a good idea is if you already have an overlong submission process: at some point people are going to give up and move on to a directory that has fewer boxes to fill in. I'd say that if your form has more than 12 fields to fill in you are starting to push the limits of people's patience.
I agree obelia, I'm a bit of a formophobic myself, having the option to choose what fields and the amount of them you want to add or not add to the submit form helps on that one.
Well, I guess you can be banned if you submit the same link more than once in the same cathegory. Submitting in different ones might express the diversity of the website and it's okay.