What's the best reason for not believing in god?

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  1. stOx

    stOx Notable Member

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    #21
    Providing this god had a better grasp of logic than the vast majority of it's followers my "excuse" would be "you provided me with insufficient evidence".
     
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  2. Zibblu

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    #22
    These concepts are entirely consistent. Let me explain it to you in simple terms:

    #1 I believe that whatever God is, is so far beyond our conception that anything that we may dream up to explain God is so far from reality as to be laughable.

    #2 Thus I believe the concept of believing that God is a "man in the sky" is laughable. It's as laughable to me as Zeus or any other sort of mythological BS. It's obviously a God created in the image of man. The God of organized western religion is a mythological creation. I think thinking of the concept of God in these kind of simple terms is very small minded. That's what bugs me about it. I feel like it's all a fairy tale game they're playing. They don't seem to have any real desire to seek the truth about reality (which is essentially the search for "God.")

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    Not only are these concepts consistent but one actually leads directly to the other.

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    I'm 100% nonreligious. But I'm quite sure I'm closer to God than Pat Robertson. He can have his fairy tales, I've seen things, man. Get down! Yeah. It's in the bass groove, dude.
     
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  3. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #23
    How can you speak for everyone? Maybe some people are a lot smarter than you, or closer to God. Just because you can't conceive of an appropriate image of God does not mean everyone else can't either. You should not use your personal limitations to limit your understanding of what others might be capable of.

    Lastly, don't you think an omnipotent God could make people think he appeared to them as a man? You are putting your own limitations on the fairy tale. Anything is possible when making shit up. :)
     
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  4. Polite teen

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    #24
    Glorified and Exalted is God Above being down in your position.

    He is the Irresistible, Supreme Over His slaves, and He sends guardians (angels guarding and writing all of one's good and bad deeds) over you, until when death approaches one of you, Our Messengers (angel of death and his assistants) take his soul, and they never neglect their duty (61)

    Then they are returned to Allâh, their True Master. Surely, for Him is the judgement and He is the Swiftest in taking account (62)



    And the Hour (of Judgment) will be Most grievous and most bitter. (46)

    Truly those in sin are the ones straying in mind, and mad. (47)

    The Day they will be dragged through the Fire on their faces, (they will hear: ) "Taste ye the touch of Hell!" (48)

    Verily, all things have We created in proportion and measure. (49)

    And Our command is but a single (Act) like the twinkling of an eye. (50)

    And (oft) in the past, have We destroyed gangs like unto you: Then is there any that will receive admonition? (51)

    All that they do is noted in (their) Books (of Deeds): (52)

    Every matter, small and great, is on record. (53)

    As to the Righteous, they will be in the midst of Gardens and Rivers. (54)

    In an Assembly of Truth in the Presence of a Sovereign Omnipotent. (55)
     
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  5. clade

    clade Peon

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    #25
    ^^ Polite Teen, you've said absolutely nothing worth reading. Thanks for cluttering this thread with utter nonsense.
     
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  6. eric8476

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    #26
    Didn't God say "he" made Adam in his own image. God could look like a man but not have a gender factor
     
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  7. Ichigo91

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    #27
    OR MAYBE EVEN AN ALIEN?! dang dang dang! :eek:
     
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  8. Polite teen

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    #28
    As you know, I am a believer, so your thread is not and does not make sense for me.

    I just wanted to see what you want to say here as a follower of Rashad Kalifa, then I opened the thread again to read Imad's post.

    Since God is more Significant than our personalities, uttering bad words against God should not be tolerated.

    I might pass an attack on me as my personality is not that important, but I don't pass an attack on my God.

    If you don't like this, I don't care, but you can think about someone saw his family being attacked, then he comment on that attack as he wished.

    Those who love are those who are jealous.

    Those who are not jealous, are those who have no sense.
     
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  9. stOx

    stOx Notable Member

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    #29
    I see your gods feelings are as fragile as his followers feelings are polite teen. What a flacid little weakling god you have.
     
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  10. Polite teen

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    #30
    What a headless being you are.

    The Truth doesn't accept other than Himself, because the Truth is High, not as you flacid little weakling thing.

    Your imagination is part of you, Allah is High and you are low.
     
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  11. stOx

    stOx Notable Member

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    #31
    Aww does your pathetic little weakling god need you to defend him? Funny isn't it, that an almighty power like your god would need you, of all people, to run to his rescue. Where is he? Hiding in the cupboard crying because the bad man on the internet called him a weaking? you make your god sound like a cowardly little sissy polite teen.
     
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  12. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #32
    "tolerate"?

    It is not any of your damn business what I say or think about your God. If I want to say anything about him - I will do so at my pleasure. These attempts to tell people what they can and can't say about your God actually makes me want to insult hm. (I hope you are proud of what you caused. Does Allah like his followers to incite more hatred of him? Your behavior has turned more people against Islam. Kudos!)

    You do Allah a great disservice. If you are any reflection on Allah, he is a pathetic, weak minded, thin skinned, violent, Jew hating, Christian hating, asshole.
     
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  13. ncz_nate

    ncz_nate Well-Known Member

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    #33
    Cosigned.

    Poor muslims, did you think you could intimidate people over the internet like the many thugs that come out of your religion do?

    Dawkins time

    What what? That's right, dawkins time.

    Muslims don't scare me. Because in America, we have a thing called the 2nd Amendment ;)
     
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  14. christinaR

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    #34
    For me, if you don't believe in God no need to think of an explanation for Him of why you don't believe
    in Him because as for a non believer, i don't think you'll get a chance to meet Him and explain your side.
    Much better for you to prepare an excuse to the one 'under' to not torture you in Hell..lol
     
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  15. ncz_nate

    ncz_nate Well-Known Member

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    #35
    Aww isn't that cute, you subtly reveal your reasoning for believing in god. Because you're afraid of "hell". So it's not really out of love that you believe in god; instead, it's out of a selfish fear.

    Also, your post proves to me how loving your god really is.
     
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  16. Jackuul

    Jackuul Well-Known Member

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    #36
    There is only one ţ̵̡rųe͞͏ ͠b͢͡e̶̡i̴ǹ̛͞g̷͏ ̛́t̴o ̵̕wo̷̡rs̛͘h͘͏͠ip͟͏.͡.̢.̕
    ...he who h͡i͡҉d̶͘͡e͏͏̶s ̴̡b̴̸͘e͏h̀i̴ń͜d͢͞͝ ̷̨ṭ̴̳̝̬̱̤̫̘̣͍͔̘͇̮̫̪̯͝h͏̗̠͍̖̺͙̲̖͉̥̫̼̱̳̲̩̱̟̝͠e̴̶̢͙̩̳̟͓̰͎̯̲̞̗̞̗̹̝̪̪͞͞ͅ ̸̶̩̼̮̲̯͎͈̥ẃ̷̧̹͚̳̩̰̘̝ą̫̯̲͚̠̼̕͘ĺ̷̡͍̹̱̜͙͎̱͙̜̱͙͈̜̟̺̭͘l̡̰̫̜͕̖̪͙̯̰̻̹̺̺̖̀͝.̶̧̬̱̗͓̠̮̠̰̮̳̭͙͙͈̣̮̗̀͡.̛̱̬̳͎͇̰̣͇̭͙͔͚́.̧͔̙̳͉͚̖͚̞͚̕͜͡

    Z̡̢̙̤͚̙̳̝͉̤͙̱̺̕A̷̰̹̝̣̳̱̳̬̟̤͎͖͝ͅͅL̫̳̞̥͔̼̼̰͙͕̜̖̞̠̥͓͜͞ͅĢ̵̷̯͍̜͈̦͉̩̼͎̹̟̠̤̩O̸̸҉̱̥͉͚̼̟͍͉͖̥ͅ
     
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    ncz_nate Well-Known Member

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    #37
    woah, was that supposed to happen? :confused::eek::eek::cool:
     
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  18. Polite teen

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    #38
    My god is not you. Glorified and Exalted is Allah Above such thing.

    He doesn't need me to defend Him. I do so out of Love that is something above your level.

    Actually, I am so grateful that He allowed me to know about Him.

    All the prasies and thanks be to God, the Lord of the Worlds.

    "tolerate"?

    It is not any of your damn business what I say or think about your self. If I want to say anything about it - I will do so at my pleasure. These attempts to tell people what they can and can't say about yourself actually makes me want to insult you.

    Note: The creatures are not God; They are His innovations.

    I didn't cause the criminals to hate the Truth, it is their nature to increase in hate as long as the Truth exist.

    It is something natural to see the jews talk bad against God who saved them from slavery and the punishment of pharoh.

    The Jews said: "Allah's hand is tied up." Be their hands tied up and be they accursed for the (blasphemy) they utter. Nay both His hands are widely outstretched: He giveth and spendeth (of His bounty) as He pleaseth. But the revelation that cometh to you from Allah increases in most of them their obstinate rebellion and blasphemy.... (64)

    Glorified and Highly Exalted is Allah, Above all your qualities.

    I am not a reflection on Allah, I am nothing before Him.

    All the good qualities I have are due to Him enlightening me with His Qualities.

    The bad qualities I have is a proof that I am not part of Him.

    It seems that you are my shit, this is why you thought me to be asshole.

    You are limited to such level, and the reality of yourself will be clear after a while.

    60. For those who believe not in the Hereafter is an evil description, but for Allâh is the highest description. And He is the All-Mighty, the All-Wise.

    61. And if Allâh were to seize mankind for their wrong-doing, He would not leave on it (the earth) a single moving (living) creature, but He postpones them for an appointed term and when their term comes, neither can they delay nor can they advance it an hour.

    62. They assign to Allâh that which they dislike (for themselves), and their tongues assert the falsehood that the better things will be theirs. No doubt for them is the Fire, and they will be the first to be hastened on into it, and left there neglected.
     
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    #39
    He obviously does need you to defend him, that's why you are here defending him and he is nowhere to be seen. which either makes him nonexistant or a gutless little coward. Which is it?
     
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  20. Dollar hunter

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    #40
    I dont believe in gods.i only believe the things which i can see.
     
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