Whats going on with Directory's?

Discussion in 'Google' started by MrTune, Jan 17, 2010.

  1. #1
    I have several free directory's, I have notice for several months now they are loosing PR, but there doesn't seem to be a rule of thumb, some that I have site wide links for sale on still have PR, others that have no sold links have dropped from pr4 to 0?

    I have other directories that have good traffic in their own right, with all sorts of extra features to keep visitors coming back. These have also lost PR?

    I also used a directory submitter tool to check other directories, when i updated the PR there are major drops

    any info would be greatly appreciated.
     
    MrTune, Jan 17, 2010 IP
  2. hans

    hans Well-Known Member

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    10 years ago a directory was a real source of real traffic
    then people started to abuse directories to artificially inflate PR and to make money without real value at all
    meanwhile finally G and other major SE have fully understood that virtual world of artificial manipulation of PR by directories made just MFA and PR
    and from understanding to safely converting into new algo to filter out such sites just intended to cheat PR it takes a while
    now that while has come and the value of directories is where it belongs - near zero
    with several ten thousands of directories - such directories have exactly zero $-value for site owners. with PR taking away there is absolutely no more value
    the intent of Internet however was and still is to publish created values. values to humanity, values to society, values of human, technical or spiritual nature.
    for a brief period of time G tried to measure such values by wrong means = and give PR to show such value

    now G has realized that people always try to cheat
    hence G has moved to OTHER means to measure true value of sites - means beyond PR

    directories still have a mini-value
    but in no relationship to efforts or even price for getting lsited!

    quality sites always get FREE backlinks from happy site visitors
    quality sites always get free promo from TV or social media or real press or high quality blogs

    with increased experience of cheating methods by the world, G improves ability to bypass cheating and increase quality requirements

    In recent weeks G has again improved and as a result of G changes traffic has gone UP independent of PR
    may be - or hopefully - one day G will totally drop PR and reestablish order without PR
     
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  3. MrTune

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    Hi Hans, so i take it you dont like directories then :) Im almost sorry i asked :) all that said, I recently launched a site and paid a manual directory submitting company to submit the site, it now gets 7th possition in google for its key phrases, so i guess they are not as useless as you say?
     
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    sarirejo Well-Known Member

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    Directory provide value to user who want to make their site visible to people and search engine. It is real that people and search engine can see our site in the directory. but SE beat directory as website review, so people mostly go to SE to search about website. Nowadays people find social network as valuable resource to follow, since their friends suggest what site to visits! That is real people and they have relationship each others.
     
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  5. hans

    hans Well-Known Member

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    directories still have a minor value
    but far less than 2-3 years ago
    and that value may decrease even more over time
    i never would pay a single cent for directory submission nor for a directory listing

    there are more efficient modern ways to increase traffic and improve SERPS than directories
     
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    Badlands07 Well-Known Member

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    What is interesting is I have a directory that is 5 years old, used to be a PR6 and is not a PR0 still gets about 200 - 400 visits a day and ranks very well for many keywords. From all appearances the only thing that changed was the PR value, but nothing else. So while Google may appear to punish directories, they actually do not always punish them.....:)
     
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  7. WallaceYeung

    WallaceYeung Notable Member

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    #7
    it's probably your case, there is still tons of quality directories out there.
     
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    sfraise Peon

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    I believe in the early 90's directories actually added something to the internet, but then came these magical things called search engines, who in the hell would go sorting through a directory now days to find a site? NOBODY! The only purpose for directories to exist on the internet today is for site owners to submit their sites to in order to get crawled by search engines, period. They have absolutely no real value for a regular person surfing the internet, none none none. Even the big ones like dmoz and the Yahoo directory give absolutely no real traffic, maybe a few hits here and there from other site owners looking at the other sites in their category maybe looking for people to exchange links with, but no regular person is sifting through them looking for your site. I'm glad the search engines are devaluing directories, they're about 10 years too late. I was even a dmoz editor a couple of years ago but why waste my time? It's a dead genre, worthless.
     
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  9. makeit easy

    makeit easy Active Member

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    If you don't add new content, your directory may lose PR like any other type of sites. Try to add new links to your directory frequently.

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    Links on directories still have the same power over SERPs and PR. There is no difference having links on a blog or directory in terms of authority. But most of the website owners don't know how to submit their links. They don't have any link building strategy. They submit same title, URL, category, etc. to thousands of directory sites. Some of them use some auto submitter programs or hire people/companies for submission who use those automated programs. They usually submit links to thousands of directories in minutes. So, SE's count all these links as spam links. The same fast solution (!) is followed for article marketing.

    Directories are websites like other websites. The problem is just the lack of time/money/knowledge on link building. Link building is a kind of promotion not a cheat. Of course, if you have a great content you may not need to care about links even you may not need the internet itself :)
    Just publish it as a traditional paper book or sell it to a newspaper, TV channel, etc. to collect the money faster even bigger :)
     
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    Google is seeing directories as linking farms

    Google knows the difference between a fake, and a real link ;)
     
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  11. Abhik

    Abhik ..:: The ONE ::..

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    Yeah!! Directories are now loosing PR. Happening for me too.
    I think, it's kind of a penalty for selling links.
     
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  12. Lex350

    Lex350 Notable Member

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    Its not that. Google is just changing the way it handles links from directories. All major engines have a directory and they are highly weighted for now.
     
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    well it cant be for selling links because some i have do and still have PR, some that i have dont and have lost PR, if its content, then i have some directories that I have closed submission on and they still get PR, others with regular new links have lost it.
    As for directories having no value! what about niche directories? i have several of those and they also have lost PR, there are several niche directoies that i use regular, so to say they have no use is not correct.

    Maybe Badlands07 as hit the nail on the head, seams like the most logical solution from googles point of view.

    Ill check my SERPS for all sites and see if there is a patern there.
     
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  14. WallaceYeung

    WallaceYeung Notable Member

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    what's the mean of selling links?
    botw, business.com, yahoo directory are not charging you cash?!
    submission fee or review fee, it's the difference.
    Google would like to drop the crap, spam, duplicate content directories.
     
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    jaiganesh156 Well-Known Member

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    I think submitting to N number of directories is a waste of time. i did a lot and its of no use. submit only to few top high PR directories. this would help. not to too many low PR low quality directories please.

    Thank you.
     
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    I continue to using the directory submissions as long as the directory provides a good quality link.
     
    ukhotels, Jan 17, 2010 IP