What would you pay for...

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by DaStarBuG, Oct 21, 2005.

  1. #1
    What would you pay for a service or software that could get your site or forum indext with over 90% of all your pages on relevant keywords in google with a pagerank higher then 5 (7-10 can be achieved depending on content easily) in about 3-6 Month?

    NO SEO Software, no link selling or such.

    I talk about a 1 time payment for a license.

    So what would you be willing to pay for that?
     
    DaStarBuG, Oct 21, 2005 IP
  2. INV

    INV Peon

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    Umm lets see... NOTHING!
     
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  3. Web Gazelle

    Web Gazelle Well-Known Member

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    #3
    Maybe a handful of peanuts. But I think I would be more apt to say "you pay me and I will test it for you".
     
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  4. DaStarBuG

    DaStarBuG Peon

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    There will be 10 to 15 case studies with a range from medium to big projects to prove that it will work.

    If it would work the question is how much would you be willing to pay for it?
     
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    stueym Peon

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    I wouldnt bother with it
     
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  6. Crazy_Rob

    Crazy_Rob I seen't it!

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    I wouldn't use it if you gave it to me for free.
     
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  7. GuyFromChicago

    GuyFromChicago Permanent Peon

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    #7
    I'm not even sure I understand what the question is:confused:

    Software that gets sites indexed and gives them PR....don't they call that "Google"?
     
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    mjewel Prominent Member

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    #8
    If you had such a method, the first question would be "Why don't you develop your own sites and keep your method a secret?"

    You could make a lot more money doing that than trying to sell a license for it. People are naturally going to think it is a scam. If you had discovered some secret to getting high keyword rankings and a PR7 - PR10, then you would be nuts to tell anyone about it. As soon as google heard about it, they would likely take steps to correct any exploit in their algorithm.

    If your software is a "pay me in advance, thank me later" then you would be better off marketing on some place like eBay rather than a forum filled with savvy SEO professionals.
     
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  9. Web Gazelle

    Web Gazelle Well-Known Member

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    Now thats an intelligent answer. Most people here will be very sceptical when reading about something like this.
     
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  10. DaStarBuG

    DaStarBuG Peon

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    #10
    It is not an illegal technique nor will google try to find a work around (at least I hardly think so).

    We will give google exactly what it wants so why would they try to stop us?

    I don´t see why we would be nuts?
    It´s a market but other then SEO sites by hand we would offer a software solution that gives you far better results (or at least we hope so). That will be our business.

    It is defenetly not a scam that is why we will conduct case studies with volunteering websites. Those don´t need to pay for it of course and wount be affiliated with us in any way. We have other projects that will run the software as well but a project run by us would not be a good case study would it?

    I know that there are a lot of scamers that promise a lot but we woun´t make that mistake.
    This is why we don´t give garanties on PR because Google is changing the algorithm all the time. The high PR will be a sideeffect.
    All this heavily depends on content of the websites of course so there will be projects that woun´t benefit that much from our system but others like big message boards like this defenetly will.

    Be sceptic that is fine with me, I would too if I would hear such things.
    We have to prove ourselfs and we will.

    But beside all the doubt let´s assume that what we offer will be delivered and let´s assume that you would be interested (even if you are not right now) what would you pay for such a solution?
     
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  11. Homer

    Homer Spirit Walker

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    #11
    Why not proceed with your case study and then post a thread that has some support/ endorsements from others. Then I will be happy to answer your question!
     
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  12. Voasi

    Voasi Active Member

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    #12
    I think Homer has the right idea. Don't ask for a price, because we're not sure what your doing. Let's see results, then ask for a price...and we'll give it if the software/process works.

    Personally, gaining automatic PR is completely false as most here will tell you. Secondly, yes, let's see a "new" site, i'm talkin' just registered site, gain top semi-competitive rankings in Google with your software/process.

    Proving yourself, as you say, is really the only way you're going to prove anything on this board. Good luck with your convincing. If you need a test site, I have plenty of new domains and hosting to use.
     
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  13. DaStarBuG

    DaStarBuG Peon

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    #13
    One case study will be a new registered project:

    The project website itself.
    The biggest problem on newly founded websites is the missing content.
    This process only works on larger content sites. I would say 1000pages+

    But we will see.
     
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  14. Homer

    Homer Spirit Walker

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    #14
    I tend to agree with this. When presenting your case study the PR of any page you have generated through your software will need to pass through this. This is a great tool for detecting false PR.

    The other point is what the hell does PR mean? PageRank is so overblown, the more updates I see the more I scratch my head wondering WTF it means today?? The latest Google ranking update has recently taken place, I have never seen so much comotion :eek:. Towards the tail end of this update they slide in a tool bar update...not much said in the webmaster community :confused:. It used to be good entertainment but I don't even consider it that anymore.
     
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  15. DaStarBuG

    DaStarBuG Peon

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    We have no problem with verification and like I said our service is not generating page rank it will get your page indexed nearly fully on google with relevant keywords. The high PR is a sideeffect our process has but will neither be garantied nor promissed. We don´t try to trick or scam anyone.

    The service will also still take a while cause we are in developement stage.
    After that is finished hopefully in january 06 we will start the beta test (case studies) with 10-15 volunteering projects that go from low-medium projects (around 1000pages content) to high volume projects (100.000pages+) and our page will be the prove test object for newly launched websites.

    This inquery was just for us to see what a market value such a product/service would have.
     
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  16. GuyFromChicago

    GuyFromChicago Permanent Peon

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    #16
    Care to explain what that's supposed to mean?
     
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  17. DaStarBuG

    DaStarBuG Peon

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    I can´t go into that much detail but it basicly means that google will index all your pages and each page can be found on relevant keywords fiting the content of each page.

    I am not the technique guy I will do the marketing and promotion.
    The technique part is done by my programmer.
     
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  18. GuyFromChicago

    GuyFromChicago Permanent Peon

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    That doesn't make any sense...at least not to me. Is the product going to cloak pages so that SE's see text that users don't?

    If you're going to market it you need to know it inside and out:)
     
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  19. Voasi

    Voasi Active Member

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    Even if the software used cloaking features, it wouldn't work. Cloaking isn't the "magic bullet" a lot of people think. They think that because they haven't used it. Cloaking is mainly content generation tool, but without the gibberish you see. As soon as someone comes to a cloaked (spammy) page they're imediately redirected to a nice, clean looking, optimized for converion, page. But you never see the redirect happen because it comes straight from the server, not your browser.

    Cloaking is fun, but just like anything, incoming links are everything. As long as search engines base a majority of their algo's on link analysis, links will play an important role.

    DaStarBug

    If your software is about just generating tons of pages and then getting them indexed...well, I have plenty of sites I do that with already and that isn't anything special. Getting those sites ranked in GOOGLE, now that's a different story. MSN and Y! are both easy to rank in.
     
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  20. *Michael*

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    I think I know how this guy is supposed to do what he says... And the selling price for that software is less than $50.

    It's a bot that does queries on the SE's on your URL. Doing this is supposed to intrigue the SE's so they'll come and index more of you and will get your keywords ranked higher.

    Or at least this is what the software is supposed to do. Actually, SE's know about this method and will penalize your site for using it.
     
    *Michael*, Oct 21, 2005 IP