What Would Muhammad Do ? (WWMD)

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by DevilHellz, Dec 5, 2007.

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    Here's an interesting link:

    WWMD

    Part of what muhammad would actually do include:

    Have sex with a 9 year old girl
    Advocate beheading
    Own slaves
    Recommend wife beating
    Hit his own wife
    Advocate suicide attacks
    Beat children who don't pray
    Lie
    Steal
    Rape

    And more...

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    Now i have seen people talk about muhammad as, and i quote,
    Thoughts, opinions ?

    *Just to clear things out, i really do want to know if these things are true. They are sourced from the Qu'ran and Hadith, as well as other sources.*
     
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  2. Aceday

    Aceday Banned

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    #2
    More and more propaganda lies, by a site run by a crazy zionist called rick ross. ( real name richard cohen)

    Using Fabricated hadiths, misquotes and mistranlations of the noble Quran, only fools those like you.


    No, they got married when she was 9, this was common 1400 years ago, even in Europe and in actuality she stayed with her parents till she was a teenager, the authenticity of this hadith is also not very strong. Plus, she was one of the greatest scholar of Islam and never once spoke a bad word about him! She described it in one hadith as a perfect match, she also taught many shcolars about Islam after the prophet pbuh died and never remarried after!

    Yes, for murderers! .... done by prophets of the bible also.

    Actually he freed Slaves!!!! Bible prophets kept but never freed slaves.

    Lie
    Lie
    Lie
    Lie.... Its not beating and its for teenagers, not children.
    Its prophets in teh bible that killed all the children after during war!

    Lie

    Lie ..... taking war booty after you have destroying the enemy who fled and left everything, and enemy that had oppressed the believers for a decade.
    Also done by bible prophets.
     
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  3. DevilHellz

    DevilHellz Well-Known Member

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    #3
    That's cute, but how about actually explaining and giving sources as to why these are all 'supposed' lies ?

    Owning slaves
    : Read. - Is that information incorrect ? If so, provide me sources to the correct information.

    Recommend Wife Beating: Sura 4:34 , More Info. - Is that information incorrect ? If so, provide me sources to the correct information.

    Hit his own wife: Read.- Is that information incorrect ? If so, provide me sources to the correct information.

    Advocate Suicide Attacks: Read.- Is that information incorrect ? If so, provide me sources to the correct information.

    And on and on.
    All the information is located HERE.

    So, how come all of those are lies ?

    *Also, i noticed that you didn't include Rape as a lie. I guess you agree with that ? :)*
     
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  4. grab my heat

    grab my heat Banned

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    #4
    I would actually give you sources and refute your claims but i'm not even going to waste my time because you're not actually intrested, all you are intrested in doing is slandering Islam. You are a waste of space.
     
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  5. DevilHellz

    DevilHellz Well-Known Member

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    #5
    Assuming such things is not very healthy, same as assuming i left you a red rep with a disgusting comment.

    I'd be glad to read what you can present to me. Show me the light!
     
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    arabSquad Well-Known Member

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    #6
    Devilhellz , i know you did provide your post with links .. but all those sources are a one very wrong translated " ayat " or chapters of the Quran

    Mohammad and the message of islam were the first at that time to free slaves and treat them just like any other person

    Mohammad (puh ) Said " لا فرق بين عربي ولا أعجمي ولا أبيض ولا أسود إلا بالتقوى " which is " There's no difference between an arab , a foreign , a white or a black person but only by faith ( or can also be good work ) " in english and encouraged to free any slaves and was totally against slavery by mentioning that who ever does that ( freeing slaves ) gets thwab and is forgiven for somes sins and mistakes he had done ! :)

    Slavery was a known thing all over the world at that time before islam ... and when the message of islam came it dealt with it in the best and smartest way
     
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    Rebecca Prominent Member

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    If you look at the hadiths you will find much violence in Islam. I think because the hadith is written mainly about Mohammed. Islam with only the Qur’an could be a religion of peace. If you add the hadiths, it looks pretty bad. I can see no way that hadiths could have been inspired by G-d. (at least not a good G-d anyway)...just my opinion.
     
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    No! These werent enslaved by the Muslims, these would be taken in by the muslims after defeating the polytheist blood-thirsty and hostile enemies, instead of leaving them to die in the desert or killing them, they must also be freed after a while.

    But they were also given the right to get their freedom when ever they want.

    24:33
    In this Noble Verse, we see that if a slave requests his freedom from his Muslim master, then his master not only must help him earn his freedom if there is good in the Slave, but also pay him money so the slave can have a good start in his free life.

    (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 65, Number 286)
    2.
    This verse is about sexual promoscuity, its not talking about wives, its talking about daughters! If you read the TRANSLATION of the verse it appears to say beat, the word used for 'beat' here is 'darb' actually means 'to make someone reflect'.

    I can prove this from the Quran...
    Translation:
    Same word as in the other verse! Translated as 'to make reflect'.

    3. Also the prophet pbuh, never beat or recommending beating! You cited an unauthentic hadith, there are thousands of hadiths, about 20,000.

    4.
    Nice try, but instead of these misquotes and mis-translations, try reading the whole chapter, because then you would realise this is only allowed in a time of war, when you need to defend yourself. Suicide is prohibited in Islam.

    4:29
    I could go on and on, your cited site is really a joke, lol, zionists are really getting desperate it seems, i think your just angry because i dont agree with your sham of a racist country that has no right to exist. :D
     
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    arabSquad Well-Known Member

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    Rebecca , how about some examples of the so much " violence " in islam
    also hadith was said by mohammed himself and many hadiths have the possibility of being wrong as they were written many years after mohammed passed away and by human just like us who could've lied or be mistaken in a part of it
    thats why there's some guides and books for knowing the strength or the " Health " of it

    Aceday : God bless you bro :)
     
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    Rebecca Prominent Member

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    I appreciate your admitting that it is possible for a hadith to be incorrect. I started learning more about Islam when the President of Iran declared dogs un-islamic. Some of his police force have mistreated dogs and put them in detention camps. Because I love animals so much, I was enraged. I found the hadiths where it says dogs are dirty, angels will not come into same room a dog is in, G-d will not hear your prayers if you have a pet dog, and kill all black dogs. I think this is evil! Mohammed liked cats, he did not like dogs. But G-d himself loves all animals including dogs if judged by Qur’an. They let that animal hating hadith get through, but it does not support what Qur’an says. Many Hadiths are also disrespectful to woman, and I do not believe Qur’an supports that either. Hadith makes me so angry, because it justifies injustice. That is just how I feel. Thanks:)
     
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    DevilHellz Well-Known Member

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    Fair enough, but see this link, as well as this one.
    I believe it is quite true that Muhammad owned slaves at his time.
     
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    #12
    The problem is not withe dogs, we are encouraged to care for all animals, the authentic teachings actually just say you must re-do ablution for prayer if the Dog licks you or you touch its saliva.

    There is a hadith told by the prophet pbuh that a prostitute was sent to paradise because she saw a thirsty dog, that she felt really sorry for and used her shoe to get it water from a well.
     
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    DevilHellz Well-Known Member

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    Ace, i'll reply to each of your points tomorrow, as i'm going to bed now.
    Ya think you can keep it civil this time ? :)
     
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    Thanks:) I'm so glad you don't hate dogs. I went to search the Internet on all the anti-dog hadiths. Instead, I came across a beautiful website by a muslim that loves dogs.:) That was really nice to see.

    He said, "They understand love, kindness, and compassion, and they respond to them. They recognize and know their owners and exhibit loyalty. If God created them this way, this fact of nature must be considered. On the other hand, if they were not created this way but we, humans, domesticated them and changed their natures so that they have become dependent on human beings, we owe them a duty of care. The rational question presented is how could God create these creatures and endow them with such qualities only to command us to hate them..." source

     
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    Muhammad the greatest example of being a very good role model.
    Not like the western country leader which they are full of lies.

    Muhammad never beheaded anyone before, even if had, there was a war at that time.
    Muhammad be guided by God.

    "To err is human, to forgive is divine"
     
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    Note to self..

    slandering Islam, bad.
    slandering Christianity, sport.

    And slightly on topic...Why in the hell have THOSE people been slaughtering each other for the last 4000 years... and please dont blame Bush.
     
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    The Truth Hurts........
     
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