What the Quran Says about Israel

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  1. roiei

    roiei Banned

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    #61
    What about sucide bombing? bus blowing? all those palestinians that act against Israel and Jews, they blow shits so Israel respond.

    The difference?

    Do you see Jews childrens born to hate palestinians? no
    Do you see palestinians childrens born to hate Jews? yes

    Do you see terror of palestinians against Israel/Jews? yes
    Do you see terror of Israel/Jews against palestinians? no (don't confused between terror actions and military actions against terror)
     
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  2. ThreeGuineaWatch

    ThreeGuineaWatch Well-Known Member

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    #62
    Yes, it's not hard to see the Bang Bus means two very different things depending on where you hail from :D
     
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  3. HostBank

    HostBank Peon

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    #63
    again I say no one is borned to hate anyone.what a nonsense that is.

    if palestinas was to start it first o.then you are write.

    but if you dont stay behind your orders and want some more land

    then you would face bus bombing.


    this has been a common behaviour in america israel and many other european nations.

    wanting to exploit nations ant nations ppl is not a good think ha .

    why israel is bombing ? why dont want palestina ?

    why u want more land ? isnt it enough for you.

    war war war. war for money.



    ThreeGuineaWatch


    you just say there should be or must be .

    no other thing :)

    for example ı just advice you to look for turkeys history.

    search those on google :)

    Kurtuluş Savaşı - war of independence

    türkiye ve 1. dünya savaşı - turkey and world war 1

    balkan savaşları The Balkan wars.

    2. dünya savaşı - world war 2

    at least search mustafa kemal atatürk.
     
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  4. debunked

    debunked Prominent Member

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    #64
    Your not making any sense or at least very little.

    No one is born to hate they are taught to hate. I have seen the shows that are shown to palestinian children. I have seen and heard the teachings from the mosques in palestine and around the world. Many (not all) muslim children are trained to hate Israel and the Jews along with America as the great infidel.
     
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  5. HostBank

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    #65
    you are making that palestina vs jews.

    I am not thinking like you.

    Israel should stop attacking other countries.Then all the rest will be in peace


    sure.I am not discussing who is guilty ? I am looking for their future .

    Here what have to be done ? Israel will turn back to its own land.

    then bombs are over.No killing.

    I want peace.
     
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  6. ThreeGuineaWatch

    ThreeGuineaWatch Well-Known Member

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    #66
    I am well aware of certain aspects of Turkish history and how the Turks were brutalised by Islamic invaders and converted after much bloody resistance - your history, too, has been shaped by barbaric invaders. But, you made a comment about suicide bombers killing and dying for their beliefs and then suggested that only a Muslim could have such faith in his beliefs as to die for them. All nations have been through critical events that require sacrifice, many of them long before Muhammad or the Qu'ran was dreamed up. The nations of Europe have borne this like no others on Earth. A single battle in WWI saw more casualties than the aggregated losses of the US in all of its riffs, spats and wars since it was founded. So let's not follow that idiotic line about only a Muslim would die for his beliefs.

    Listen, sunshine, you are acquitting yourself very poorly here. I can understand English might not be your first language. You're probably a bright lad, but you are not doing yourself justice here. Why don't you jump off the 'net, get the books out, acquire an education, learn to think about and analyse what you are presented with and the world might appear a completely different, more enjoyable, enriching place.
     
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  7. d16man

    d16man Well-Known Member

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    #67
    Hamas and hezbollah has used human shields numerous time, they do it thinking that Israel won't fire back on women and children...when Israel does, then Hamas and Hezbollah claim that Israel fired on innocent civilians...its a never ending cycle to show how much hatred muslim extremist really have for israel.
     
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  8. HostBank

    HostBank Peon

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    #68
    I am not behind Hezbollah.Hezbollah is an organization.illegal.



    you dont know the history of turks.in a war turks met with arabs.then they saw it was the most appropriate religion they can belong to.Islam.

    There hasnt been any invasion as you mentioned.Your knowledge of history is not enough.

    I am not here to defend anything.Nor I do need reading books.I am 26 .I really know much about history.I like it.I am graduated and not a lad sure.

    As I know several languages ,I am close to difrrent cultures.

    Yes my native language is turkish.You understan what do I mean .

    by saying me that you dont know that language you can change nothing.


    As mentioned,Again I mention I am not defending anything.
     
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  9. astire

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    #69
    hostbank, dont waste yur time with these sheep. they are not here to do any constructive debate. they are only hate provokers.....Actualy they are suffering from "Isamophobia".....
     
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  10. HostBank

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    #70
    I saw a moving against Islam.Many of the members are anti islam.


    why you are so afraid ? who teaches you those kind of ideas ?

    Just Peace:)
     
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  11. KalvinB

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    #71
    Islam wants to be feared.

    I've yet to see a Muslim on these forums defend Israel or even Jews for that matter. Just hate hate and more hate.

    The kind of hate that leads a "minority" of Muslims to murder Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, Christians and even other Muslims.
     
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  12. debunked

    debunked Prominent Member

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    #72
    The only ones currently teaching about islam are muslims themselves. Actions speak louder than words. And those actions are very loud when people are being blown up in almost every part of the world in the name of islam, alah, and mohamad.

    If you want the teaching to be of peace the actions must be of peace. If islamists stop attacking people and blowing up everything, that would be a start towards peace.

    Maybe start with something simple to help with figuring out the word problem. 1+1=2 bombs+death=retaliation+more death
     
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  13. HostBank

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    #73

    now ı understand your problem.

    its Hezbollah and other illegal organizations doing such actions in the name of islam.

    but is this what Islam wants ?

    what they do is to believe strictly in a religion.then lose yourself in that religion.be freak.start attackin


    this is Islamic terrorism ,no other thing.

    killing for islam .they think that.thats wrong.

    Allah doesnt want us to kill.Nor Islam wants.


    Islam is a peaceful religion.Detach Islam and Islamic terror.
     
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  14. d16man

    d16man Well-Known Member

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    #74
    If you want this to be the final solution, then you need to be a leader...teach by example...as it is, the only example the world sees is of islamic terrorism.
     
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  15. HostBank

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    #75
    hıms.I see.lots of examples you encounter nowadays.so you think islam is that.but it is obviously terror.


    what to say.hımm..


    In our religion,we never murder a man if he is unarmed.look at history.

    drinking is permitted.If you are married,having sex with another person is permitted.

    Killing is Permitted.

    ritual praying is done 5 times a day.Allah is in our heart everytime.

    We fast for 1month every year to show that we thank Allah for everything.

    We sacrifice animals to Allah.

    We give 1/40 of our properties to poor ppl every year.

    we have religious festivals.(ramadan ,sacrifice festival..)On those days we dont work.We meet with our relatives.(uncles,aunts,grandmothers,grandfathers.)

    we do smile.we do live in peace.Islam is just whatever you can call as ''good''.





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    just by a Quran.or look for it on the net.just read some parts.

    or go to a muslim.and ask him.what islam is .just have a conversation.

    then you will understand.

    what is behind the press's lies :)
     
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  16. KalvinB

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    #76
    denial never solved anything.
     
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    #77
    can you make it clear ? do you mean I denied something ?
     
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    #78
    Man, these threads move so fast... this is from page two.. sorry.

    No, why would you infer that?? He tells us clearly in the book of Moroni in chapter 8 - actually most of the chapter - God's stance on this issue: http://scriptures.lds.org/en/moro/8

    The whole thing is VERY detailed, but here's a small quote from it: "[Verse] 9 And after this manner did the Holy Ghost manifest the word of God unto me; wherefore, my beloved son, I know that it is solemn mockery before God, that ye should baptize little children."

    In the language of reformed Egyptian, one CROSSES a river. English wasn't around at the time of the writing of the Book of Mormon.

    "And it came to pass" was the normal way of recalling events in 1000 BC to 400 AD, just as much as "And then" is used today. Is that a problem?
     
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  19. KalvinB

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    #79
    That demonstrates a distinct lack of understanding of what baptism is all about and its role in salvation.

    If you're going to attack a religion in your holy book, make sure you actually understand the religion you're attacking.

    And you know that because... Are the other examples of reformed Egyptian that I can read?

    Are you then saying that the whole of the Book of Mormon is literally translated "Reformed Egyptian?" And that any similarities to it being written in the style of old English are purely coincidental?

    The Bible was written in Hebrew and Greek. And yet translators manage to keep the translation true to the language of the time it was translated.
     
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  20. roiei

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    #80
    It's obviously you don't know anything about Israel and the palestinians
    I'll recommend you to learn the issue before post posts like these ...
     
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