What religion has done the most killing in the world?

yes, what about it? what relation does that have to your analogy regarding £50,000?

Speak in coherent sentences please. Blurting out strings of random words that look like they might mean something doesn't really help. Remember, we don't know what is going on in your head, We don't know what you are thinking, it is important that you write things in a way which people will understand.

 

Well probably my point is, You were just going out of context and when sara explained you with full details, You were still arguing.

Then i just gave you one example that we both signed a treaty and I broke it, then what will you do?

Like this, pagans signed a treaty with Muslims and suddenly they broke the treaty which causes Muslims to fight with them, were Muslims fighting pagans without any reason, even though Muslims were still searching for peace first ?

 

I would take you to a small claims court to try and get a judgment in my favour that requires you to pay back the money, possibly in instalments that you could afford. If you file for bankruptcy i would have to write the debt off.

Why what should i do? Kill you wherever i find you?

You aren't very good at analogies, Don't do anymore.

 

But what if there wasn't any bankruptcy rule ?
And with your best efforts, still you failed to get the money back.
Afterthat, You come for peace but i still deny you and i want to fight with you, and you desperately needs your money back, and the only possession you have was that $50,000. What will you do then ?

P.S:- I'm not starting any personal war with you stOx.

 

I still wouldn't kill you, No matter how altered, contrived and manufactured you make the analogy.

To save you anymore effort, I wouldn't kill anyone over any amount of money in any situation.

 

Sorry I'm writing this: You're a community leader, I'll take all of your possession and will kill your people, and i will do it again and again, you'll still let me go free ?
And don't forget about the other part of the line where Almighty Allah also states that: " But if they want to stop, let there be no more war ".
Thus Almighty Allah also says that Drive them to the safest side.

A Major General will allow the prisoners to go, he will never say that drive them to the safest side, will he ?

 

And if you're saying that you will not kill me, you're really kind.

But if Islam teaches us to kill others, who was Adolf Hitler?
Was he a Muslim ?
Why he still holds the record of killing most people in the whole world ?

 

the analogy had certainly changed a lot since it's inception.

See, all you are doing now is trying to produce an analogy, ANY analogy, That will make me agree with you.

 

I'm not urging you to agree with me.

Just clarifying your misconceptions regarding Islam And Qur'an.
Sara quoted you the whole verses which clearly proofs that Qur'an does not teaches anyone to kill innocent people without any strong reason.

If suppose, just for your sake i agree with you that Qur'an does allow killing innocent people, why the western world is coming towards Islam ?

 

Well as long as you have a "strong reason" for killing innocent people.

Do you know what doctors call people who kill because of instructions from invisible entities?

 

I don't know, but when innocent people becomes very violent, I know what to call them.
Do you know Medial Science is even indulge into Holy Qur'an, and the recent discoveries which they've discovered in the past years have already been mentioned in the Holy Qur'an 1400 Years back ago ?

 

They are violent schizophrenics

Well that isn't true. What it has is vague descriptions of nothing in particular that has been interpreted by the believers in a way that appears, to them, that it made predictions. The thing with all predictions is that they lack detail and rely heavily on interpretation.

 

It's not prediction, It's the truth.

Science discovered how the earth was formed in past years which was already described in Holy Qur'an 1400 years ago.
Science discovered the formation of water cycle in past years which was already there in the Holy Qur'an 1400 years back ago.
Science discovered Airplane in the past years, which was already mentioned in the Book of Almighty Allah, 1400 Years ago.
Science discovered the formation of a human being, which was already descibed in the Holy Qur'an 1400 years ago.

Prediction aren't always the same, and not on multiple statements.
Science have made several discoveries in the past with the help of Holy Qur'an, a scientist was even converted to Muslim, if you need proof i can give it to you.
Science discovered the satellite view of the earth, and found " Allah " written on the earth in arabic, BBC even aired about that incident for almost 60-minutes.

 

I don't even have time for this. Just know that what you are saying is wrong. if you want to believe that the quran predicted this stuff (even though it fails to give details at any point) it's up to you, But trying to convince a scientific person of it is frankly an insult to my intelligence, it cheapens your religion and it shows a complete lack of appreciation for what science does for you.

All you have to do to realise that it's complete shit is think "if the quran explained this stuff so long ago, Why did it take everyone, Even muslims, this long to figure it out?". if the quran mentioned the aeroplane 1400 years ago why was it only built in the last century?

 

It's simply a rubbish question.
If you're favoring Science and disfavoring Holy Qur'an, then you should ask Science and complain them that they should've invented airplane etc inventions in early centuries.

 

Lack of materials and the tools to create an airplane.

 

And as far as you're saying that: if you want to believe that the quran predicted this stuff (even though it fails to give details at any point) it's up to you.

ALHAMDULILLAH I was, I am, and I will be believing in Islam, The Holy Qur'an, Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) and his Ahlul-Bayt, And in the One & Only God Allah!

Peace Be on you!!

 

planes can be constructed from the most basic materials if the concept of aerofoil lift is understood. They could certainly have been constructed 1400 years ago, Proving the concept of "lift" was understood, Which it obviously wasn't.

Kids can make planes now with nothing but glue, wood and canvas..... Apparently these modern day children understand the concept to a greater extent than this prophet who allegedly invented it....

 

stOx, do you know how to make houses with dust and woods ?
stOx, do you know how to burn a match-stick with stone ?

you're now totally losing your mind, there are so many things which cannot be done by us and there are so many thing today which were not able to be done by the people who were living 1400 years back.

 

So you're saying that children understand aerofoil lift, or that they are mimicking the invention of the prophet?