What PR would you need to be able to start selling links?

My site was recently hammered by the latest Google pagerank update. For some unknown reason I went from PR3 to PR1. I was all set to start selling (albeit very cheaply) some home page links as I had decided that PR3 links, if cheap enough, would be viable for many webmasters to buy.
Since I'm now a PR1, that idea is scuppered, but what PR would my home page need to be before I could hold my head up high when trying to sell links?

All comments and suggestions welcome.

 

You can even sell a link at PR0... But you must have something the other needs.

Selling links can be for either : Getting backlinks, or Traffic.

I was selling links for PR0 at 30$ per month, because i get around 3000-5000 uniques per day.
So , good luck to you buddy.

 

My uniques are much, much lower than this - about 40 - 50 per day only. Any lnk sold would need to be for backlinks and not traffic, hence the cheapness I mentioned.
I don't think my subject matter would ever get me 3000-5000 per day, without having 100 times as many pages as I have. Thanks - food for thought.

 

Selling links for PR is taboo to the Master Google *all praise Google* and they frown upon such practices and potentially could make your PR1 site PR0 because you are doing such things...

Though don't fret over it much, many MANY sites took a hit in the last round.

I agree domainsurfer, offer up something other then PR. pushing the idea of backlinks and/or traffic. In the end it's really all about traffic anyway...unless of course you are in it just to sell links, but even then, traffic is a great bonus.

You may also wish to go for some small time link exchanges. That can increase those coming into your site and in turn can convert to additional links and all that entails.

Work on promoting your site through natural means, and you'll likely get your PR back, but if it's PR you are really concerned with then you should re-read the google guidelines as they change. It's their game, so you must play by their rules...

 

I don't really like the idea of link exchanges. Rightly or wrongly, I don't think they drive quality traffic, although I may have been looking in the wrong places. Any suggestions for good quality link exchanges would be welcome.
I'm also not trying to artificially boost my PR. PR is not important to me really, traffic is what I'm after. I assumed that having a higher PR would make any links I had to offer more valuable, giving me some money to use to promote my own site.

 

Your assumption on many levels is correct, at least in certain circles... but many (and many more now) are shooting for the traffic aspect. The trouble with traffic is that there is no real method of telling how popular a link is other then through tools that can be tricked. I made it into the Alexa top 100k with around 200 uniques a day for a niche I can't hardly find quality links from here on DP. *shrug*

Though, things like PR and Alexa can give a rough idea of how a site is doing, just take them as a rule of thumb. Apply those thumbed rules to your own site and promote it. The more popular you can make your own site, the more valuable your links will become.

Go on and sell your links for whatever you can get out of them, but sell them on a monthly basis. You'll not get much now unless you can show that your site is pulling in some decent traffic. Once your links for this month are sold, use some of that money to help promote your site. Also put in some time to promote your pages through free resources (social boomarking, networking, directories, etc) and then repeat the process next month. A few cycles from Google and you'll find that your monthly income from those links is going up...

As to where specifically to go to do that I can't really say...

What site or niche? That could help in people telling you the value. Us knowing your traffic stats could also allow us to give a better answer as to the price.

 

It's the site in my signature http://www.freewritingadvice.com

My traffic stats are very low at the moment as I promote the site using only free methods at the moment. it's just a hobby. Unique visitors of about 40 - 50 per day average (ranges from 35 - 100 sometimes). Pages viewed per visitor is usually about 1.5 to 4 on average.

I'm starting to think that I should just continue trying to get my own traffic before complicating matters by selling links.

 

Be honest about things and try selling a few links here (when you get access). Start the bidding low and see where it gets you. Though don't sell too many as that lowers the value of each link.

You can get a rough idea of the value by checking out a few of the sites listed here: Text Link Pricing Guide (though two of them seem to be broken).

Though keep in mind, from my experience the prices given compared to what you'll actually get are generally a lot lower.

One of them listed your site at $5/month. Maybe start the bidding at one or two dollars and BIN at $10. But again, the number of outbound links on the page can effect it.

 

Thanks Qryztufre, appreciate the advice. I'll maybe spend a bit longer on dp as you suggest before thinking about this again.

 

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Thanks,

Justin

 

You can sell links as soon as you launch your website if you want to. Just price them accordingly.

 

Sorry Justin, thanks for the offer but I think your site needs a lot more work. Mine isn't perfect either, I know. Try fixing all the spelling mistakes for a start. Also the content is not related to my site.

 

I think for me pr 3 would be the absolute minimum before I would consider selling unless the site has lots of traffic regardless of pr.

 

For me, selling a link directly is wrong. Selling your service as a directory (ie. paid to review a submission) is perfectly acceptable, regardless of PR and traffic. Although both come hand in hand (usually!).

 

I think people are just going to have to start thinking deeper about integrating links with content. I think if you can partner up with a business and do a paid content share, Google wont penalise anyone for buying or selling links. As long as the content and links are meaningful. I think that buying and selling of links to quickly and easily manipulate search rankings should be punished though.

 

What Google is doing contradicts their PR don't you think? Google ranks your website by how many incoming links you have so naturally people are going to try and get as many links as they can. It's like Google set up a mouse trap for webmasters,especially directories.

 

personally, I think that pr is over rated a bit. I would be more inclined to buy links from a site offering decent targeted traffic than just PR but no traffic. one of my sites is pr3 and gets anywhere from 18k to 30k visitors per month. Most people won't buy links based on it's pr3, but will buy it when they consider the potential traffic which could come their way.

Also, it's granted that to generate this type of traffic there are number of things which had to be done, as a result the pr will inevitably go up.
ps. I do not sell links on my sites, so please don't pm me. I'm just making a point.

 

That makes much more sense.

 

A lot of people are into text links because of PR regardless of the right or the wrong of it. Most of the brokerage sites (Text Link Ads, Linkworth, etc.) are looking for sites with PR 4+ before they'll add them to their listings.

 

Whats next? Maybe they'll start penalizing websites that sell banner ads. This is ridiculous.