The Muslim world is 1.5 billion people; the nations of Libya, Syria and Lebanon do not represent the Muslim world; they are but one, extremely small part of it. Furthermore, the U.S. military has killed over 600,000 Iraqi citizens in the now 5 year Iraq war. When you contrast the number of people killed in some of the biggest 'hotbeds' of terrorist activity (say Israel) you see that these days may be 15 Jewish individuals die to terrorism at it's height. By contrast, more than 4 times as many Isrealis die in car accidents. I don't mean to downplay the evils of terrorism, for certainly it is great and vast, but it is of course not limited strictly to the Muslim world, and the Media vastly overplays any incident of 'Muslim' terrorism and greatly downplays, say the deaths of Iraqi civilians. The vast majority of Muslims are a peaceful people, as with any group... you cannot take the action of say 70 million people in the Arab world and say "all 1.5 billion muslims are like this" because it's patently false.
I agree, but I guess for some people it's much more fun to be ignorant and simply hate all muslims and claim they just want to destroy the world
true, true, why on earth noone says : CHRISTIAN just killed ** people in a school of whatever state, US ? Syria are not muslims?? Are you sure about that?
Because many people, like myself, don't care if the killer was a christian or whatever religion or cult he was believing in. He was just a disturbed individual.
Aren't the people in Iraq now killing each other(sunnies vc shiites) by their own ideologies? How can you fabricate this number?
Well, I think the same, but in US people like to say muslim, if a killer was muslim, I don't know why though Actually, everyone is paranoid about it Probably 9/11
So you mean to say it was a bad idea to go against Hitler's regime and Hitler himself, because he didn't kill anybody personally?
Well, Hitler attacked first, and officially announced a war, that's a different story and a different war, where whole country participates, not just 3,500 troops. I'm sure he did though There's one or two presidents in South America if I am not mistaken, who don't like US too, but their haven't killed anyone personally, maybe US shall start bombing Bolivia? They can always say, that Bolivia has preparing something for US, etc. it's all b*shit, in my point of view. I think US started the war in Iran as an answer to 9/11, they couldn't do anything else.
I think you and many americans seeing Islam from one point of view, if the whole Islam were like that(as said 1,5 billion), 2nd biggest religion, then I think it would be much worse to live on earth.
My father was in Stalingrad for Hitler's regime, not voluntarely but he was. Conclusion? Collective guilt? - Yes. Would others or I condemn my father for this? - No. Would others and I condemn those who forced him to do so? Yes. Who are they? Most of them haven't even killed a person themselves but created the whole mess like Hitler. Now, how big was the German Nazi regime, how many soldiers, supporters? Were the people under the regime all bad? No. So that means according to your interpretation that the Nazi regime shouldn't have been fought, right? Do yourself a favour and contact reality.
I don't have anything against any religious groups, but your view is also biased. Do you realise that currently most of the people getting killed in Iraq are not getting killed by US forces, but are victims of extremist activities of rival Shia and Sunni groups and anti-US militia who don't even mind killing their own people just to prove their point. I can't imagine what will happen once the US forces withdraw from Iraq.
It is not a fact. It is your interpretation. You are comparing a religion that is practiced world-wide by mostly pacific individuals to a (terrible) event that happened over a few years and limited to like-minded people located in Germany. Yes, this was a terrible mess but I don't see the point in comparing islam to the nazis. "Al Quaeda" could be a metter comparison with Nazis.
I think they would if he ran in to a mall shouting god is great then pulling a cord to a bomb belt then later they found out he's a christian. Christians who do violence don't do it in gods name nor do they claim such, the Muslims your talking about do.
what's your point? Read your books, listen to many the muslim leaders, mullahs and imams and tell us it is not so. You must be joking. and the infidel non-Muslims (Dar ul-Harb/means the house of war). - Go and figure where you are. Just to start with.
Someone used the "all" card early on in this thread. iul...was that you? "600,000 Iraqi citizens" - got a source for that? Last I checked, it was muslims killing muslims in Iraq. The killers earned their virgins, why give their credit and virgins away to others? 1.5 billion isn't a lot, even though it's not a sourced or accurate number. You might want to consider the BILLIONS of non-muslims who are starting to see what islam is about and getting fed up with it.
I'm confused; is the moral of this thread: Who cares if some whack job knocks down a few buildings and kills thousands of people; more people are killed in auto accidents? Whew. That's a load off my mind! Wake me up when someone nukes a city.
So that's the reason noone says that it was a christian ? Just because, he doesnt say himself "I am a christian" ? Again, muslims are not extremists, extremists are extremists, and they can be of any religion. Reality is, muslims fought germans too, if you know on south russia a lot of muslims. So what's the point saying a word "gathering" when muslims were there too? Maybe you don't know that. In that case deduct billions of chinese/buddists who dont have anything against islam, and then your number won't be much larger than 1,5 bln. It will be more, but to say 1,5 bln isn't a lot.....well, no comments. In fact, calculate how much countries backed US in this war, except UK.
Re-read my post above, also i'll try to make my point just that little bit clearer for you; If a bomber is claiming he's doing an act for Islam then why not say Muslim Terrorist etc? are we supposed to forget they are doing it for Allah or that they are Muslim naturally? Maybe the news should report the story but fail to give any reasons why it happened would that be best? That's what your trying to say. Your basic argument is like "if a christian nicked a car then why don't the news say christian car thief" because he wasn't doing for his god or in the name of his religion, it's pretty easy to understand isn't it?