What is your religious belief?

Firstly, let us not forget that God is the revealer of secrets. Yes, us imperfect human beings have got it wrong when it comes to finding out the date when Armageddon happens, but we don't do that anymore because we have looked closer at the scriptures and found that we can't possibly know the time or date when this will happen. Jesus stated this very clearly in Matthew 24:36-47

“Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father. For just as the days of Noah were, so the presence of the Son of man will be. For as they were in those days before the flood, eating and drinking, men marrying and women being given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark; and they took no note until the flood came and swept them all away, so the presence of the Son of man will be. Then two men will be in the field: one will be taken along and the other be abandoned; two women will be grinding at the hand mill: one will be taken along and the other be abandoned. Keep on the watch, therefore, because YOU do not know on what day YOUR Lord is coming.

"But know one thing, that if the householder had known in what watch the thief was coming, he would have kept awake and not allowed his house to be broken into. On this account YOU too prove yourselves ready, because at an hour that YOU do not think to be it, the Son of man is coming.

“Who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time? Happy is that slave if his master on arriving finds him doing so. Truly I say to YOU, He will appoint him over all his belongings.

Our faithful and discreet slave have got it wrong in the past, but are not self-proclaimed prophets as you say. Where do you get this from?

I talk to God several times a day in prayer. God does not speak to humans as humans speak to humans. He has no need to speak to us. That is what the Bible is for. It has all the answers.

Fellowship? With the holy spirit? Where are you leading with this? You must know what the holy spirit is first before you can start quoting it.

Jehovah God forgives those who repent. Have I earnt it? Only Jehovah God knows that answer. Those who say that they have earnt forgiveness by God are most probably self-righteous.

I'm starting to think more about where you are situated spiritually. If you call yourself a "Christian", do you take a good look at yourself and can safely say "I follow in the footsteps of Jesus and continue ministering to others about the good news of the kingdom"? Can you answer this simple question?

 

how about this...

STRONG HEBREW AND GREEK DICTIONARIES
ἐκκλησία
ekklēsia
ek-klay-see'-ah
From a compound of G1537 and a derivative of G2564; a calling out, that is, (concretely) a popular meeting, especially a religious congregation (Jewish synagogue, or Christian community of members on earth or saints in heaven or both): - assembly, church.


where in the bible can i read Church or Congregation no need for a name? and are Jehova is the true name of God, i know you know the other name of God not realy jehovah, jehovah is only a translation but not his real name... ok this is the last question, what is the name of the church what verse can i read it if you know...? just the verse if you donot know just say it... just be straight to the point...

 

I dont have any religious beliefs, nothing has been 100% proven to me so I dont see that I can really.

But I do totally resect others beliefs.

 

johneva

here is some 100% proven, its written in the bible,

"Pro 30:25 The ants are a people not strong, yet they prepare their meat in the summer;
Pro 30:26 The conies are but a feeble folk, yet make they their houses in the rocks;
Pro 30:27 The locusts have no king, yet go they forth all of them by bands;
Pro 30:28 The spider taketh hold with her hands, and is in kings' palaces."

there's many just ask?
and thanks for your respect

 

I really dont want to get into this to much as I would hate to acceidently offend somebody by not understanding there beliefs.

But how does that prove there is a god though?

Or that there is only your god?

I do belive there must be something that I dont know about, cos I dont understand why everything is here.

What are we really?

What is life?

 

let start here

Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
Gen 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
Gen 1:3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
Gen 1:4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
Gen 1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
Gen 1:6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
Gen 1:7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
Gen 1:8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
Gen 1:9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
Gen 1:10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.
Gen 1:11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
Gen 1:12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
Gen 1:13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.
Gen 1:14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
Gen 1:15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
Gen 1:16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
Gen 1:17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
Gen 1:18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
Gen 1:19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.
Gen 1:20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.
Gen 1:21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
Gen 1:22 And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.
Gen 1:23 And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.
Gen 1:24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
Gen 1:25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
Gen 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
Gen 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

 

what is life? this is the life of the christians,
"Rev 4:11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created."
we must glorify God... if we do this we will have this....

Joh 3:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

 

I know but who says this is real?

I did not see any of this happen so find it hard to beleive it did happen I am not saying it didnt but I just carnt belive myself until there is proof which would never happen.

There are so many beliefs with so many diffrent versions of what everything is and why it is but nobody has pure proof that I have seen.

But it is for these reasons I also resect all beliefs cos I carnt disprove them either and wouldnt want to really even if I could, if people are happy beliving in what they do that is more important for me.

As for your eternal life reference I am not sure I would want eternal life I often think it would be easyer if I did not exist yeah I would not experiance the pleasures of life but on the other hand I also would not experiance the negative things in life too.

 

Nothing was descreet about it, it was backed by the leadership of the JW's.

Where am I leading with this? First, nothing was spoken about "quoting" the Holy Spirit, but what I was leading you into, was that you have no relationship with Our Lord and Savior, that is evident by you not even knowing that God speaks to us. He does, and yes, the Bible is a key way He does that, but through the spirit He does also. If you have know idea what I am talking about, then you don't know Him. "My sheep know my voice"

Interesting, but from the watchtower, Jesus only paid for the sins of those before Him - the Bible says He paid for the sins of the world.

 

thats why jesus warned us about false christ or antichrist, and its sad to say that they are many, so to be sure first dont believe what people say, just ask them and look in the bible if they are telling the truth learn to read the bible, many true things is written in the bible, like wash your hand before you eat, love your parents, give to the poor, remember all thing are written in the bible you dont have to translate it, the bible it self will explaine it...

 

But mate who wrote the bible?

Why is the bible the be all and end all?

I could write a book and say that is the way it is but dont mean it is.

If I had seen some of this happen many many years ago maybe I would belive but I havent all I have to go of is a book and other peoples say so.

If I see god they I can belive he exists.

But then even if he exists,

What is god?

Why does god exist?

 

the apostles and im glade to say that they are human to, created by God, you must believe that God commanded to the apostles to wrote the bible, jesus said "Joh 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.
Joh 20:29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed." jesus said blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.... we dont have to see God to believe example do you have knowledge? you will say yes... do you see it? no, but you have it... do u have love in your heart? yes! but you dont see it, and you have to believe it because you feel it... if the angels wrote the or God, we will never understand their language because their language is other than our language, we dont have the capasity to understand their language for now, human create the computers but we believe it, if we say we canot believe the bible because human wrote it we can say we canot believe the computers because human made it too...

 

what is God?

"Neh 9:6 Thou, even thou, art LORD alone; thou hast made heaven, the heaven of heavens, with all their host, the earth, and all things that are therein, the seas, and all that is therein, and thou preservest them all; and the host of heaven worshippeth thee."

he is the creator of the heaven and the earth....

Why does god exist?
no one can explain it or i can say we dont have the rights to ask that...

"Rom 9:20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus? "

i know someday we will know...

 

I still dont get ya there though I belive in a computer cos it is right in front of me and I am typing on it now.

Saying that am I?

Is any of it really here?

Where is here?

How do we know god made the apostles though all I have is quotes from a book saying so.

As for believing in love it it is a feeling though not an object.

Same again though what is the sensaion of feeling?

People who belive in God feel they have all these answers cos it says so in a book but, who says it was not just written by a clever person with a good imagination?

I never saw God make these apostles and then I did not see them write the bible all I have to go of is what some people said thousands of years ago.

Like I say I carnt say there is no god and find that there are questions in life that indicates there must be something else somewhere that we are all missing but what is something nobody has real proof of.

I mean look at science's theroy of that we evolved from something else but what made the very first thing that other things has evolved from?

Why did the very first thing ever exists what is existance?

If you think about these things to much they just blow your mind really cos nobody has the answer as much as they like to think they do.

As I say if god exists what is god?

Why did he ever exist?

And that question again what is existance?

 

Saying gods is the creator of everything is still not explaing what he is though that just says what he did.


EDIT

If anything I have said in this thread has offened anybody in the slightest because I dont have any beliefs I am extreamly sorry and that was never my intesion and is the reason I dont like to even get into discsions about peoples beliefs.

 

I choose this option

 

Johneva,
Nobody should get offended. You have your beliefs and your questions, no offense taken here.

 

debunked is right!...

 

Kawikaan,

The Bible does not say "church" as far as I know. Congregations are mentioned in several places in the Bible. The names you are after are just the places that the congregations are at. Like in Revelation "To the congregation in Smyrna" and so on. Jehovah is God's name and is n English translation of the Tetragrammaton JHWH. In fact, I have thr tetragrammaton on the front of my wedding ring.

Read this about God's name:

The Divine Name Through the Ages

JEHOVAH God wants man to know and use his name. This is evident from the fact that He revealed His name to the very first two persons on earth. We know that Adam and Eve were familiar with God’s name because after Eve gave birth to Cain, according to the original Hebrew text, she said: “I have produced a man with the aid of Jehovah.”—Genesis 4:1.

Later we read that faithful men like Enoch and Noah “walked with the true God.” (Genesis 5:24; 6:9) They also, then, must have known God’s name. The name survived the great Flood with the righteous man Noah and his family. In spite of the great rebellion some time later at Babel, true servants of God kept on using his name. It appears hundreds of times in the laws that God gave to Israel. In the book of Deuteronomy alone, it appears 551 times.

In the days of the judges, the Israelites evidently did not shy away from using God’s name. They even used it in greeting one another. We read (in the original Hebrew) of Boaz greeting his harvesters: “Jehovah be with you.” They returned his greeting by saying: “Jehovah bless you.”—Ruth 2:4.

Throughout the history of the Israelites right up until the time that they returned to Judah after their captivity in Babylon, Jehovah’s name continued in common usage. King David, a man agreeable to God’s own heart, used the divine name extensively—it appears hundreds of times in the psalms that he wrote. (Acts 13:22) God’s name was also incorporated in many Israelite personal names. Thus we read of Adonijah (“My Lord Is Jah”—“Jah” is a shortened form of Jehovah), Isaiah (“Salvation of Jehovah”), Jonathan (“Jehovah Has Given”), Micah (“Who is like Jah?”) and Joshua (“Jehovah Is Salvation”).

Outside the Bible

There is also evidence from sources outside the Bible of the extensive use of the divine name in ancient times. In 1961 an ancient burial cave was uncovered a short distance to the southwest of Jerusalem, according to a report in the Israel Exploration Journal (Volume 13, No. 2). On its walls were Hebrew inscriptions that appear to date from the second half of the eighth century B.C.E. The inscriptions contain statements such as “Jehovah is the God of the whole earth.”

In 1966 a report was published in the Israel Exploration Journal (Volume 16, No. 1) about pottery fragments with Hebrew writing on them that were found in Arad, in southern Israel. These were written in the second half of the seventh century B.C.E. One of them was a private letter to a man named Eliashib. The letter begins: “To my lord Eliashib: May Jehovah ask for your peace.” And it ends: “He dwells in the house of Jehovah.”

In 1975 and 1976, archaeologists working in the Negeb uncovered a collection of Hebrew and Phoenician inscriptions on plaster walls, large storage jars and stone vessels. The inscriptions included the Hebrew word for God, as well as God’s name, YHWH, in Hebrew letters. In Jerusalem itself, there was recently discovered a small, rolled-up strip of silver, apparently dating from before the Babylonian exile. Researchers say that when it was unrolled, the name of Jehovah in Hebrew was found to be written on it.—Biblical Archaeology Review, March/April 1983, page 18.

Another example of the use of God’s name is found in the so-called Lachish Letters. These letters, written on potsherds, were found between the years 1935 and 1938 in the ruins of Lachish, a fortified city that figured prominently in Israel’s history. They appear to have been written by an officer at a Judean outpost to his superior, named Yaosh, at Lachish, apparently during the war between Israel and Babylon toward the end of the seventh century B.C.E.

Of the eight legible shards, seven begin their message with a salutation such as: “May Jehovah cause my lord to see this season in good health!” Altogether, God’s name appears 11 times in the seven messages, clearly indicating that the name of Jehovah enjoyed everyday usage toward the end of the seventh century B.C.E.

Even pagan rulers knew and used the divine name when referring to the God of the Israelites. Thus, on the Moabite Stone, King Mesha of Moab boasts of his military exploits against Israel and, among other things, states: “Chemosh said to me, ‘Go, take Nebo from Israel!’ So I went by night and fought against it from the break of dawn until noon, taking it and slaying all . . . And I took from there the [vessels] of Jehovah, dragging them before Chemosh.”

In reference to these non-Biblical uses of the name of God, the Theologisches Wörterbuch zum Alten Testament (Theological Dictionary of the Old Testament), in Volume 3, column 538, says: “Thus some 19 documentary evidences of the Tetragrammaton in the form jhwh testify in this regard to the reliability of the M[asoretic] T[ext]; more can be expected, above all from the Arad-Archives.”—Translated from German.

God’s Name Not Forgotten

This familiarity with and use of God’s name continued right up to the days of Malachi, who lived about 400 years before Jesus’ time. In the Bible book bearing his name, Malachi gives great prominence to the divine name, using it altogether 48 times.

As time went on, many Jews came to live far from the land of Israel, and some could no longer read the Bible in the Hebrew language. Hence, in the third century B.C.E., a start was made in translating the part of the Bible that existed then (the “Old Testament”) into Greek, the new international language. But the name of God was not neglected. The translators retained it, writing it in its Hebrew form. Ancient copies of the Greek Septuagint that have been preserved to our day testify to that.

You keep asking for the name of the church. I don't know why you are perservering with this. I gave you something to read earlier which shows your verses have been transalted differently and it is not in the correct context.
I can't answer your question because it does not say in the Bible that it is a church and it has a name. The more important point here is how to identify God's chosen ones and how they conduct themselves. Read the gospels where Jesus tells his apostles what to look for in God's chosen ones.

 

I'm not a religion person, nor do I believe in any religion. I don't feel like relying on something that might not even exist. Whatever you do, Is what you did. No one else, just you.