What is your reasoning on these Verses from the Kuran?

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  1. Postingpays

    Postingpays Well-Known Member

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    #101
    I will keep it repeating, till these ignorant teachers will understand my question and try to answer it well, before making some slang comments.
     
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  2. debunked

    debunked Prominent Member

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    #102
    You are making less and less sense every post. What does slang have to do with anything?

    You keep repeating yet you have been answered, you don't want to accept the answer.

    Keep your slang and repeated questions to yourself, it is getting lame.
     
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  3. d16man

    d16man Well-Known Member

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    #103
    what words are slang? Please be specific.

    the problem here is like debunked said, you will believe anything any school or imam tells you....and nothing else. I am not asking you to believe, all I am asking is that you realize the differences found in the different "versions" of the Bible are not a matter of the original Hebrew...on that all Christians (and even Jews and Greeks for that matter) agree...furthermore, most Christians use the NRSV (both protestants and Catholics), so I am not sure why you are trying to argue this point? It is a spreading of the GOOD NEWS OF GOD? Are you somehow against this since all these versions are apparently inferior in your views? Are you against what God is doing in the world? Or is God only helping Muslims? Would that be why Muslims like to blow themselves up? So they can reach the goal of 72 virgins (what do women get?, do they get 72 virigins? I thought Muslims were against homosexuality??)?
     
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  4. guerilla

    guerilla Notable Member

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    #104
    And the Islamic schools in the West teach something different. What exactly is your point? Is there only one implementation of Islam? Are Muslims identical in their faith, commitment and interpretation?

    Heck, Christians can't get their act together enough to have consistent rituals and history otherwise Luther would have never posted his 95 theses on the castle church door.

    Have you ever seen a religion more fluid, and quicker to reform than Christianity?

    If the True Word is gospel, why does it constantly need reinterpretation?
     
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  5. KalvinB

    KalvinB Peon

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    #105
    It does?

    As you have done with Islam, people like to lie about what the Bible says in order to trick people into following them. They're not "interpreting" the Bible. They're flat out lying about what it says. Martin Luther didn't interpret anything. He simply pointed out the lies that the Catholic church was pushing at the time.

    If I tell you Moby Dick is about a horse is that my "interpretation?"
     
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  6. guerilla

    guerilla Notable Member

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    #106
    I don't lie. I am trying to be as factually correct as possible. Please come with more than the Liar, Liar defense.

    So you are saying that Martin Luther was right?

    In a liberal and open minded society, I would say yeah. You are welcome to interpret what you read however you want. It doesn't make it honest (that's my point), but it does make it your interpretation.

    That's been my argument through these threads. There is a collection of folks who want to defame Islam, but can't actually do more than Google for source material. They aren't familiar with Muslims the people, they aren't very familiar with the whole of Islam as a religion and they have not made the investment in time to become knowledgeable on the subject.

    Btw, I'm probably closest to an Anglican Christian in my beliefs. And part of those beliefs are that hypocritical behaviour in the name of God is sin. If you're going to harass and demean, then make sure that fits into God's plan for you. If you plan on quoting scripture, make sure you understand it the way God wanted you to understand it.
     
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  7. KalvinB

    KalvinB Peon

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    #107
    I already caught you in a lie. You claimed that Muslims believe that Jews and Christians are the children of God. Very recently a Muslim on this forum informed me that calling yourself a child of God is insulting to Allah and presented me with the same Koranic verse I showed you. So yes, you do lie. Either that or you're just ignorant and/or don't actually read threads you participate in. You assume that you know about Islam but you don't. One of us is actually listening to what Muslims are saying and asking questions about what they tell me they believe.

    Does the catholic church still sell indulgences? Upon futher review it turns out that teaching wasn't actually in the Bible.

    Liberals can't tell the difference between lies and interpretations then. Moby Dick was not a book about a horse. Claiming it was is a lie.

    By claiming Jews and Christians are children of God you just insulted all the Muslims of this forum by calling Muhammad a liar. Here's a hammer.
     
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  8. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #108
    No, it's pretty much the same teaching here too.
     
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  9. guerilla

    guerilla Notable Member

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    #109
    I would go with ignorant. But then you did struggle with the Disciples and their two wicked swords of mayhem, so perhaps we are even.

    Brothers in ignorance so to speak.

    Yeah, the only way to God is through Jesus, or the Pope if you have enough money. You gotta love that Martin Luther, except for his anti-semetic opinions.

    I'm sure the Muslims of this forum will forum will forgive me. Or perhaps they won't. Either way, I'll let the big guy in the sky sort it all out when I die. I'm sure he knows whether Mohammed is legit or not.
     
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  10. guerilla

    guerilla Notable Member

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    #110
    Right, but since we don't deal in absolutes, you aren't saying it is ALL of them right? ;)
     
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  11. KalvinB

    KalvinB Peon

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    #111
    Do Lutherans care what Luther's opinions are?
     
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  12. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #112
    Nope, I avoid the all card. I see my post earlier in the thread about your forthcoming use of it was well predicted. Nothing new here ;)
     
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  13. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #113
    I absolutely do not support a law which say "murder people if they say something with which you disagree". I also absolutely do not support a law which says "murder people for engaging in consensual sex."

    To do so would be morally reprehensible.

    It is morally wrong to "respect" something which is evil.

    What is "crime deserving of death" to you is "freedom" to me.
     
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  14. Truth777

    Truth777 Peon

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    #114
    You might wanna read this one:

    "Saudi police 'stopped' fire rescue:Saudi Arabia's religious police stopped schoolgirls from leaving a blazing building because they were not wearing correct Islamic dress, according to Saudi newspapers.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/1874471.stm
     
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  15. Rebecca

    Rebecca Prominent Member

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    #115
    I read that article. 15 girls died because the police were too busy beating the girls down as they were trying to escape the burning building. The Islam religious police were concerned because they did not have there head gear on properly? So of course, according to Islam it is much better that the girls burn to death. What a bunch of losers.

     
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  16. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #116
    In America, we would not treat dogs so poorly.
     
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  17. LeoSeo

    LeoSeo Well-Known Member

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    #117
    Those policemen were losers indeed, but are you any better yourself to relate a bunch of idiotic policeman's behaviour to a whole religion?

    Check out how many people were burned and violantly killed in Europe in the history for being witches, affected by evil and rest of the ignorant crap under the name of the religion and then make a generalisation about it, ofc if you are stable with your logic.

    Also see: _:eek:_
     
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  18. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #118
    I love the "two wrongs make a right" argument. It takes me back to the good old days of kindergarten. When is nap time? I want my milk and graham crackers!
     
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  19. Truth777

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    #119

    The Islamic year now is 1428.
     
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  20. LeoSeo

    LeoSeo Well-Known Member

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    #120
    Yes and Italy won the world cup in 2006.
     
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