What is your reasoning on these Verses from the Kuran?

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  1. astire

    astire Peon

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    #81
    I can only laugh on this ....:D
     
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  2. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #82
    Because you have no reasonable argument.

    You have already admitted that I would be murdered if you caught me in Dar Al-Islam. After that, your other admissions are all going to seem weak.
     
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  3. astire

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    #83
    When i did say such thing? thats simple allegation....
     
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  4. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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  5. astire

    astire Peon

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    #85
    No, it was not the threat for you. I just told you a law which you asked specifically. I am sure you respect the laws of the territory where you are staying. Like i will respect American law when i will be in America.

    And this is a basic demand of an independent country from the citizens of that country or who are coming into that country. And I guess you assume yourself as one respecting laws not one who break the laws.
     
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  6. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #86
    You stated that you believed that Islamic Law should be civil law, which means that you support this law.

    The only thing keeping me alive is that I am in Dar Al-Harb, not Dar Al-Islam.

    Or, to take it to it's logical extension, the only thing keeping me alive is the men and women of the United States Armed Forces -- the folks that keep Dar Al-Islam from overrunning Dar Al-Harb.

    Oh, BTW, my words are being transmitted into Dar Al-Islam right now as you read them. This is enough to get me a sentence of death in any Sharia court.
     
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  7. astire

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    #87
    you are foolish....No one want to kill you. its some Islamophobia in your mind and nothing else. Yes i support the law as civilized person and hope you too respect the law. If you dont do a crime then why you will be punished.
    You support your American law to give death sentences to th ekillers..right? Now ho wi can assume that you want me to kill since yu support that law...this will be stupid thinking ..right?
    Same way if i support law that says that publicaly abusing to Holy prophet (pbuh) has a punishment of sentence to death (though abuser will be given a chance to apology and if he apology he will be forgiven). now how yu are taking this unto yourself? being in our country you will have to obey our laws as a civilized person like i will do respect American law bein in America.
    So demandin you to respect a law is too much for you? Or why you will want to publicaly abuse Holy Prophet (pbuh)? unless you suffer fromsome mental sickness.....

    This is my last response to you. I am tired to answer the stupidity of you aain and again. So this is last time i am responding you on this issue.
     
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  8. debunked

    debunked Prominent Member

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    #88
    I fart in the general direccion of mohamad and I slappith his faceth with my shoe! (said in the fake-french accent spoken by a brit - ie. monty python)




    BTW, I don't apolgize for insulting a false prophet, one that has brought much death and destruction to many including those who followed him.
     
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  9. Postingpays

    Postingpays Well-Known Member

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    #89
    Man we don't have any version, The Quran is Just ONE , I repeat Just ONE.

    Some of its Part was revealed in Makkah and some of its part revealed in Madeeniah.

    Just goto anywhere in the Whole world and we will have "JUST ONE QUR'AN"

    Again the personel statements against Islam without any Proofs.

    I think you must think of your own Bible which has got no more than 70 Versions each of them conflicting other.

    And let me ask you ... How can You take the Bible from those persons who never Met Jesus (as) ever in their life ??

    I hope you take my question if you know just something about the Bible you must understood the fact.
     
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  10. KalvinB

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    #90
    And yet only the "arabic" version is considered "accurate." Whenever any of us quotes the Quran you go on and on about how it's not correctly translated.

    We only have one Bible too.

    For example...
     
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  11. d16man

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    #91
    proofs...lmfao!!! Islam is the only religion that have followers wanting to kill innocents for no reason (i.e. 9/11, hamas and hezbollah using human shields, Sunni's killing shiites, etc)
    The different versions are an example of evangelism and outreach, trying to show others the good news (euangelion in greek) of Jesus Christ....the contradictions are a matter of translation into the respective languages, not a contradiction of the original language.
     
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  12. Postingpays

    Postingpays Well-Known Member

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    #92
    Ok ok ok .... Just see my comment given under ..

    Well, Well, Well, Really good news for me that Christians have got the ONE Bible, :D :p :D

    Ohh, than why is there any differnce b/w the Roman Catholics & Protestants .. and why are there more than 70 Versions of it .. and Why is one verson the 1/7th of the other ??

    Ok, I am going to accept your words, Just bring me ONE bible on which all of the christians agree to consider ..

    Waiting for your answer to MY, I repeat MY question and no other lavish statements ..

    Long Live Islam, Long Live Muslims,
    ~ Postingpays
     
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  13. d16man

    d16man Well-Known Member

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    #93
    where would you like me to mail it? You realize the OT is in Hebrew and the NT is in greek, right? Therefore there is ONE Bible that everyone agrees on...like I previously said, the differences are an interpretation into the respective language....I could do the same thing with the koran...the problem comes with the language you are trying to interpret into, not the original...nice try at arguing the validity of the Bible, but once again, you have been proved wrong.
     
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  14. Postingpays

    Postingpays Well-Known Member

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    #94
    Ohhh !!! so you prove your Bible working .. Its Great to know.

    Please do email me / PM me the link where you have got the Real "Hebrew" Bible in which all the 70 Christians Believe in 100%, including Catholics & Protestants, and all other ..

    Waiting for your Hebrew Bible and lets Hope all will agree @ your version. The "New King d16 Bible" :D
     
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  15. d16man

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    wtf??? Its not a link....I will mail you an actual copy...or do you not want that? Furthermore, I am a protestant, and I happen to know that my denomination recognizes the NRSV, which is also recognized by the Catholic Church. However, as someone who has been instructed in greek or hebrew, I myself could come up with two different sentences translated from the same verse....as I have said now for the third time, it is not the matter of the original, but the matter of the language you are translating into....and like I have said now twice, the same could be said of the koran. If you ask any biblical scholar (even those that lead the church, both catholic and protestant:eek: ), the real version is the original hebrew and greek....I don't understand why you are trying to argue a point that is invalid, and could be same for the koran as well...and now, I am not trying to make a new King d16 version...wtf are you thinking???:confused:
     
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  16. Postingpays

    Postingpays Well-Known Member

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    #96
    First of all I would like to say that we muslims don't use slang language on these discussions as told to us by holy Quran.

    Anyhow, You are not understanding my q'n and just trying to give replies again and again, Just try to get my point there.

    I am NOT asking for the Translation etc. I am asking that Bring me the one ORIGNAL bible in that language which was revealed to the Jesus (as).

    We Muslims have Just one Arabic Qu'ran and All Muslims are agreed to it.

    Now comeup with the Orignal Bible in the Real Language, Non-Translated, on which all christians agreed to Catholics and Protestants and all others ...
     
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  17. d16man

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    again I will call you an idiot....no one ever said that the Bible was revealed to Jesus....ever....this is the problem with Muslims...they have religion so screwed up in their head because they only believe what a MAN told them, and not what was inspired by God...how about you come up with the original, and I mean the exact 1st translation of the koran, since you say there is just one....where is it? in what mosque is it? does everyone only learn from this one? or are their copies made?

    Just like copies made of the koran, there are copies of the original Bible....however, unlike the koran, chritians believe in spreadinf the good news of God, rather than chopping off the heads of the unbelievers...therefore there are translations of the Bible in many languages, which all help to SPREAD the GOOD NEWS of God, rather than killing people.
     
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    #98
    I think postingpay is just ignoring everything we say, because he keeps repeating something without showing what he is trying to say. 70 Christians? 70 different bibles that contradict?

    I think we asked him or one of the other muslims here to show something and none can. Just like any good student, he doesn't question what is told, he just repeats it. I find this to be common in high school and college too. No one thinks to question their professors or imams, or find proof to what they are being taught.
     
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  19. Postingpays

    Postingpays Well-Known Member

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    #99
    Yes, I know you can use this slang language, as may be your d16 Version approve to use the slang language against Muslims. :p

    Anyhow, I didn't even think that you are so unaware of Muslims and Islamic history.

    Let me tell you that Qur'an is still in the same language in which it was revealed "Arabic", and its still read in that laguage as we Muslims prefer to read and understand Qur'an in its orignal language and where it is Just search around every Muslim and Islamic site and that Arabic Qur'an will be 100% same on all those approved Muslim sites, I will not give you one, but all the links you are free to use ::

    islamicity.com/mosque/quran/
    www.oneummah.net/quran/quran.html
    www.sacred-texts.com/isl/quran/index.htm
    www.al-islam.org/quran/

    Just goto each site and the Arabic Orignal text will be 100% matching with all.

    And now give me your orignal "Hebrew" bible and tell me the all sites online or even offline, on which all if the christians believe in. The Orignal Hebrew ...
     
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  20. d16man

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    except that they are to kill the infidels, which seems to be taught in every muslim school in the east....just do a search of youtube to find the video....
     
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