What is your reasoning on these Verses from the Kuran?

Allah and God is one. Allah did not wrote quran by hand. he send the verses by angel Jibrael to Holy Prophet (pbuh). Holy Prophet (pbuh) share those verses with his sahaba (followers). those sahaba note those verses and learn by heart.....
There is only one Quran unchanged since then....and that is the final and complete guidance from Allah(swt) canceling all prior holy books.....

 

God didn't change His mind, He is the same yesterday, today and forever. He had a plan to send a Messiah and He sent that Messiah. (Old testament vs. New Testament) So, you are way off when you try to cancel anything that was from God, unless He says a certain debt has been paid.

Your alah and mohamad and his followers can write whatever they want, but when that affects the world, through death and destruction, then you will have opposition.

 

Mat 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
Mat 7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
Mat 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

2 Pet 2:1 [NIV] But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
2 Pet 2:2 [NIV] Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
2 Pet 2:3 [NIV] In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
Mat 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
Mark 13:22 For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall show signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.
1 Cor 14:37 If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.

 

you said I was wrong yet true...is this how all muslims think? I believe that my book (the Bible) is Word by Word from God...I also believe that since human beings wrote it there are some discrepancies...

Yes, the Hebrew Bible and the Bible...and yes, I believe in (not on) the Old Testament...I also believe Jesus came to fulfil what God had started in the Old Testament.

Have you noticed that Islam has ALWAYS had opposition of some sort? Yet you don't find that in other religions...yes, even Christianity has had its opposition, but not like Islam. I look forward to the day that Jesus comes back and corrects everything that is wrong with all the religions.

 

Your two points are completely contradictory.

That's just silly. I'm going drinking tonight. I'll make up a religion on my way home and demand that you "respect it" because it has "firm grounds."

That's because Muhammad was a control-freak who used murder and intimidation to enforce his will. That doesn't hae anything to do with god, that has everything to do with people not wanting to be murdered.

 

Some bad spirit may have played the role of the angel Jibrael.

How can you be so sure the sahaba(s) didn't make a mistake. They were humans, weren't they?


How could God send a new religion that is contradictory to all others?

 

yes, if you pick them out from the context. if you read full you will better understand but i doubt you want to understand

you need some more common sense. unfortunately it is not avaiable in market...i was talking about established divine religions which are Islam, Juadism and Christianity....

this is simply bashing, people like you do when they run out of arguments....

 

its not contradictory to other religios but followers of other religions had polluted them withtheir own inputs.....

Thatswhy QURAN IS SECURED WORD BY WORD...because it is the final pieceof guidance from Allah(swt)....

 

yes, thats mean its not word by word from God since you admited that it has discrepancies.....
Quran has no discrepancy. You will find the same Quran in the Africa which you will find in the far east.....
On the contrary you will find different contradictory versions of bible on a single book shop....

 

Again, you are probably refering to changes to God's Word - The Bible, yet you haven't given one example to that.

After that you say that God changed His mind completely and made His prior Word null and void with the koran? And somehow it is secured word by word? how is this possible. God wasn't good enough to keep His prior word, but somehow learned how to secure it later?

Come on, answer back with something - like and example of proof to your claims.

 

OK, give one example of a contradictory version - and not one edited by some cult like mormons or jw's, I am talking about different translations (translations can very on the words it uses some being older english, some modern english, or say spanish or french.)

Dare you!

 

None of those religions have any more basis than the religion which I intend to invent tonight. They are all entirely self-referential.

You are discriminating against my new religion and in favor of Islam because it already has one billion followers. This is exactly the argument which you earlier denied.

 

No, it's because the Islamists will murder anyone who tries to use a translation of it, update it, or repair it.

That is not some manifestation of divine will, that is a manifestation of terrorism.

 

How do I signup for your religion? I'm on board!
But I want a high rank and lots of money. PM me details

 

lolz....that exactly shows your mentality. You are materialist and see materialism in any thing. So you are christian/jew/whatever because you were born in a christian/jew/whatever family or you were bribed by money and high ranking...just wondering

 

when your mate is already admitting that he think that thre are discrepencies then what prrof you are asking for foolish..huh

 

Islamists have not killed you even you abused holy prophet (pbuh). So go and try to change the Quran....
Stupid argument. Muslims are not all over the world in domintaion.

 

That's because I live in the safety of Dar Al-Harb, not in the hellhole of Dar Al-Islam -- as you admitted in another thread.

 

Yes and that prve my point. Every where muslims are not in domination to control Quran not to be changed like you said.

 

Except, of course, that you're wrong.

In areas where the Muslims are not able to murder people at will, we do have translations of the Koran.