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What is your observation when using blackhat?

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by Guntzenbach Conrad, Nov 27, 2017.

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    I run a total of 13 websites and I admit I have been using blackhat for about 9 of them. As for those with only whitehat backlinks, I started those from April this year.

    When studying the trends now, I start to realize that those with no blackhat are performing ALOT better. While I do not particularly notice significant negative effects due to penalties, I do realize the increase in organic keywords and much more viable keywords on page 1.
    SEMrush
    In conclusion, don't waste your time and money with blackhat. Infact you will end up spending more time and money with blackhat because you will have to try to "fix" the problem.

    What are your thoughts?
     
    Guntzenbach Conrad, Nov 27, 2017 IP
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  2. Sumit_Singh

    Sumit_Singh Active Member

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    I never used blackhat techniques and do not recommend to anyone. These techniques seem easy and sometimes give you the best results but not for long-term so, better is not to do it. These techniques are like a trap that get the user attention because as I told, these seem easy but the truth is these techniques are harmful to the website and in final you always get the bad results.

    What is meant by Blackhat SEO techniques?
    The answer is simple to make fool both Users and Search Engines but not for a long time.

    Use Whitehat techniques, I know it takes time but the results are for the long term and effective.
    Don't go with easy one, go with the best one.
     
    Sumit_Singh, Nov 27, 2017 IP
  3. Ciprian Bitter

    Ciprian Bitter Greenhorn

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    Watching thread due to interest in the subject
     
    Ciprian Bitter, Nov 28, 2017 IP
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    mrb1129 Well-Known Member

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    There are some things such as PBN's that are termed as blackhat techniques. But actually they work just fine if you do it right.
     
    mrb1129, Nov 28, 2017 IP
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    robinymym Active Member

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    Same here
     
    robinymym, Nov 28, 2017 IP
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    usasportstraining Notable Member

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    Blackhat techniques, are either unknown by almost anyone but a few and they work OR they are known by many people and they don't work. Google is way beyond most of our abilities to trick it. For those that set up PBN's they are either really good at keeping under the radar or they are already known about by Google. That's just my opinion.
     
    usasportstraining, Nov 28, 2017 IP
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    dimitarang Active Member

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    blackhat is not stable, I mean you can reach some good results but evetually penalties will come.
     
    dimitarang, Nov 28, 2017 IP
  8. Jim4767

    Jim4767 Prominent Member

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    1. Don't do it.
    2. Don't do it.
    3. Don't do it.
     
    Jim4767, Dec 2, 2017 IP
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    usasportstraining Notable Member

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    You think a PBN is blackhat? It doesn't seem blackhat to me.
     
    usasportstraining, Dec 2, 2017 IP
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    Marius Enache Member

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    Blackhat SEO techniques work in the short term, but it's very likely to get your site penalized eventually (and it's tough to recover after this kind of penalty).
    If you don't care about the long benefits and you are happy with some quick results, no one can stop you.
    However, if you are looking for the long-term benefits, never use the blackhat strategies.
     
    Marius Enache, Dec 2, 2017 IP
  11. AndyChuyen

    AndyChuyen Banned

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    Why do guys think PBN is blackhat ? Build your own PBN and it is work very well.
     
    AndyChuyen, Dec 6, 2017 IP
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    Naksh Greenhorn

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    Even I have never employed black hat technique and will not recommend it to anyone
     
    Naksh, Dec 7, 2017 IP
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    If you continue with blackhat google will notice at some point and you will lose rankings.. and possibly income..
     
    kb24, Dec 11, 2017 IP
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    If you niche is for short time go for it, but for most of niches black hat work waste your time, energy and money.
     
    shumail, Dec 22, 2017 IP
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    A few years back I used to build upwards of 5 million links per day and it was decent to get sites profitable quickly. Google have massively upped their game recently though when it comes to autogenerated content and mass automation.

    I guess this comes down to your personal definition of black/whitehat. IMO if you break the Google Webmaster Guidelines then its blackhat.

    Here are the two main things I feel PBNs break from the Webmaster Guidelines...

    Avoid tricks intended to improve search engine rankings.
    Participating in link schemes


    And this from their link schemes page...

    Any links intended to manipulate PageRank or a site's ranking in Google search results may be considered part of a link scheme and a violation of Google’s Webmaster Guidelines. This includes any behavior that manipulates links to your site or outgoing links from your site.
     
    shaun-m, Dec 22, 2017 IP
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    Naseem1 Greenhorn

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    AGREED WITH YOU SIR :)

    AVOID USING BLACK HAT
     
    Naseem1, Dec 22, 2017 IP
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    Block hat do not do it or support it. Either way you will hurt by Google's game plan and real time algorithms.
     
    kellyrose, Dec 24, 2017 IP
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    Naseem1 Greenhorn

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    you mean to say BLACK HAT. right?
     
    Naseem1, Dec 24, 2017 IP
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    No I think Kelly trying to say If you do black head you will hit in real time according to google last penguin update.
     
    Bilal Anwar, Dec 28, 2017 IP
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    Naseem1 Greenhorn

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    First of all it is "Black hat" and not "block hat or black head"
    and i know that kellyrose is trying to say that by doing or supporting that activity, the website will be in trouble.
     
    Naseem1, Dec 28, 2017 IP